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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>,
	Jonathan Foulkes <jf@jonathanfoulkes.com>
Cc: Rich Brown <richb.hanover@gmail.com>,
	"David P. Reed" <dpreed@deepplum.com>,
	cerowrt-devel <cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] Internet Speed Measurement: Current Challenges and Future Recommendations
Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 14:10:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k1elxr6j.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw50Okp3VJb_o2Tm2vSfiYSqUJdfgeWYWu2N6JnOHpf-og@mail.gmail.com>

Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> writes:

> I keep hoping government will get it.

My old department has been involved in a project in Sweden run by "The
Internet Foundation" ("Internetstiftelsen")[0], to come up with a
"definition of internet access". The intent is to standardise which
metrics to use when advertising an internet connection, to make sure
things are comparable between providers[1].

Crucially, this definition includes latency under load as one of the
metrics to include.

I don't think this definition has any legal standing as of yet; rather
it's a preliminary study, and there's an ongoing project to get the
definition adopted (which I don't know anything about). But the report
does have quite an impressive list of participating organisations.

See the press release here:
https://www.netnod.se/news/netnod-and-internetstiftelsen-publish-version-1.0-of-the-definition-of-%C2%A0internet-access

The press release is in English, and includes a link to the full report
which is in Swedish. If anyone wants to try their luck at machine
translation, the latency under load metrics are 8.10 and 8.12. The list
of participating organisations is on the last page.

Maybe this definition could be used as a model for other efforts
internationally?

-Toke



[0] The non-profit that runs the .se toplevel domain, and does in
general promotes the development of internet technologies. See
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Internet_Foundation_in_Sweden

[1] Unlike the US, in Sweden there is a functioning market for internet
services, with healthy competition. In many places the services are run
over publicly owned, or at least subsidised, infrastructure, much of it
fibre.

      parent reply	other threads:[~2019-05-20 12:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-17  7:36 Dave Taht
2019-05-17  8:29 ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-05-20 12:10 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]

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