From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.toke.dk (mail.toke.dk [52.28.52.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7EC713B2A4 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2018 16:14:19 -0500 (EST) From: Toke =?utf-8?Q?H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=toke.dk; s=20161023; t=1543180458; bh=M+wn+H+Ogxfhk94KtR616oeEeH0ZU6nCVKGT6Wx06TY=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=Td2sL0bAf4ni6lOlDv93rDRSsLoXL5cNSeyM7pGrixPzJw5gny4+VWd7L7/JLOam7 2uVk+zt67CUyBehfEfiwGqzIjFSZ7RkC3lInfVL/hOAAzbETnqk68uhlhVCPLDZ5an RFglN0igNbCtprN/iIRD2yDxR6GcTuKw9fzo03y1GZg35vriqn1WDMxvsJ/0u4CxEL UsZ1AO7H8aIR2laB0MANP6bUZFeQX+HJxlu57DiLuCmRoTiyk46K78zRaZKlezkAe3 4RR5JLBawo8axTdJ7nQ7Lf0oxLbPmrWP15ajZbwCcFqbk9cWEBZtGdBZgT9c+atne2 lETU36sA+u+5Q== To: Luca Muscariello , Dave Taht Cc: Jonathan Morton , bloat In-Reply-To: References: <6C1479A8-43E8-4F89-BCEA-1D28CA3E8589@heistp.net> <87r2fbzrng.fsf@taht.net> <8F4997E9-B7A3-4095-8183-89CCC53E11AB@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 22:14:17 +0100 X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Message-ID: <87lg5gzwpi.fsf@toke.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Bloat] one benefit of turning off shaping + fq_codel X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 21:14:19 -0000 Luca Muscariello writes: > On Fri 23 Nov 2018 at 18:27, Dave Taht wrote: > >> On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 9:17 AM Luca Muscariello >> wrote: >> > >> > Yes there was some discussion about that. >> > Moving things to hardware should fix that. >> > >> > Evens traffic management in NPU based routers makes use of hardware >> based polling for shaping. These are trade offs one has to face all the >> time. >> > >> > There has been a discussion at the defense about hardware vs software, >> hardware + software, when one, when the other. >> >> I'm still listening/watching. >> >> > >> > BTW Toke is Doctor Toke now :-) >> >> I hope you made him sweat, at least a little. :) >> >> > Difficult to sweet here. It=E2=80=99s freezing, but I=E2=80=99m leaving a= lready. Toke I > think has already started to eat and drink too much... Haha, indeed. Only catching up to email now... :D Thanks for a fun discussion, Luca, and to everyone who listened in. I had a tremendously fun three hours, hope everyone else did as well! :) -Toke