From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.toke.dk (mail.toke.dk [IPv6:2a0c:4d80:42:2001::664]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83AC93B29E; Wed, 1 Dec 2021 19:10:30 -0500 (EST) From: Toke =?utf-8?Q?H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=toke.dk; s=20161023; t=1638403825; bh=WNmgp99QmAVoLazyjLk6qE2I4aOkA3KvrBPmLK6bGE4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=jpgo5dCmW3rNaKVAYmmZGGbB57uvbMJje8wfXlwvZm/xEG8wegjb93S1yPZITjG2L LpHNU0V8UYW/QP7HWGS9LrdBcsejxkLcUMkUfkcykggmPKByOhd8uycjAY9zFVz8lO jl7DYMH+0YPLixchCsgYd8Wk9bMOxi8tCvGCGLfRFmAItrk+8CC8T4Ueqm4juRrYPI Fa24XCcI8wH9tqwMkVMVSJH/ZzXmrIvBudUAlb8TseMmXiiH5Fxqj0FBashnvgqKmV Vk8kbPnauYbIgV4E9Toy6McRKuzEmr4uZoXRyFqDn+Sz+0qOJAodBNZn+oQaOgxUXJ F9bKqbfDTjElg== To: Valdis =?utf-8?Q?Kl=C4=93tnieks?= , David Lang Cc: cerowrt-devel , "David P. Reed" , bloat In-Reply-To: <119212.1638397736@turing-police> References: <1638390391.091227727@apps.rackspace.com> <119212.1638397736@turing-police> Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2021 01:10:23 +0100 X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Message-ID: <87mtlj6f4g.fsf@toke.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] uplink bufferbloat and scheduling problems X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2021 00:10:30 -0000 "Valdis Kl=C4=93tnieks" writes: > On Wed, 01 Dec 2021 13:09:46 -0800, David Lang said: > >> with wifi where you can transmit multiple packets in one airtime slot, y= ou need=20 >> enough buffer to handle the entire burst. > > OK, I'll bite... roughly how many min-sized or max-sized packets can you = fit > into one slot? On 802.11n, 64kB; on 802.11ac, 4MB(!); on 802.11ax, no idea - the same as 8= 02.11ac? -Toke