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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
To: dave.collier-brown@indexexchange.com,
	bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net, Sam Westwood <sam@repeaterstore.com>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] We built a new bufferbloat test and keen for feedback
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2020 12:48:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mtzwt47a.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bc56722f-1778-fa44-05e5-e0ed69fee361@indexexchange.com>

Dave Collier-Brown <dave.collier-brown@indexexchange.com> writes:

> Tried it, and I really like the header and use of candle-charts!
>
> I got this:
>
> [cid:part1.81AC21AC.758FE66F@indexexchange.com]
>
> I'd like to be able to explain it to non-techie folks (my grandma, and also my IT team at work (;-)), so I wonder on their behalf...
>
>   *   Why is unloaded a large number, and loaded a small one?
>      *   milliseconds sound like delay, so 111.7 ms sounds slower than 0.0 ms
>   *   Is bloat and latency something bad? The zeroes are in green, does that mean they're good?
>   *   Is max "bad"? In that case I'd call it "worst" and min "best"
>   *   Is median the middle or the average? (no kidding, I've been asked that! I'd call it average)
>   *   Is 25% twenty-five percent of the packets? (I suspect it's a percentile)
>   *   What does this mean in terms of how many Skype calls I can have happening at my house? I have two kids, a wife and a grandmother, all of whom Skype a lot.
>
> Looking at the cool stuff in the banner, it looks like I can browse,
> do audio calls, video calls (just one, or many?) but not streaming
> (any or just 4k?) or gaming.  Emphasizing that would be instantly
> understandable by grandma and the kids.

Also, holy cow, what's going on with your connection? The unloaded
latency says 17/110/200 min/median/max RTT. Is that due to bad
measurements, or do you have a lot of cross traffic and a really bloated
link? :/

-Toke

  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-05 11:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-04 21:30 Sam Westwood
2020-11-04 23:43 ` Michael Richardson
2020-11-04 23:54 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-11-05  1:52   ` Y
2020-11-05  0:23 ` Dave Collier-Brown
2020-11-05 11:48   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2020-11-05 13:24     ` [Bloat] Comparing bufferbloat tests (was: We built a new bufferbloat test and keen for feedback) Dave Collier-Brown
2020-11-05 14:24       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-11-05 16:06         ` Arshan Khanifar
2020-11-05 17:25           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-11-06 16:03             ` Stephen Hemminger
2020-11-06 16:17               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-11-06 17:05                 ` Sebastian Moeller
2020-11-08 22:07             ` Arshan Khanifar
2020-11-14  3:37               ` Dave Taht
2020-11-14 23:14                 ` Michael Richardson
2020-11-05  8:21 ` [Bloat] We built a new bufferbloat test and keen for feedback Sebastian Moeller
2020-11-05 21:30 ` Sam
2020-11-07 21:22 Rich Brown

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