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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
To: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] beating the drum for BQL
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 13:24:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mutc6m85.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1808240901240.23215@uplift.swm.pp.se>

Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> writes:

> On Thu, 23 Aug 2018, Dave Taht wrote:
>
>> I should also point out that the kinds of routing latency numbers in
>> those blog entries was on very high end intel hardware. It would be
>> good to re-run those sort of tests on the armada and others for
>> 1,10,100, 1000 routes. Clever complicated algorithms have a tendency
>> to bloat icache and cost more than they are worth, fairly often, on
>> hardware that typically has 32k i/d caches, and a small L2.
>
> My testing has been on OpenWrt with 4.14 on intel x86-64. Looking how the 
> box behaves, I'd say it's limited by context switching / interrupt load, 
> and not actually by CPU being busy doing "hard work".
>
> All of the fast routing implementations (snabbswitch, FD.IO/VPP etc)
> they take away CPU and devices from Linux, and runs busy-loop with
> polling a lot of the time, an never context switching which means L1
> cache is never churned. This is how they become fast. I see potential
> to do "XDP offload" of forwarding here, basically doing similar job to
> what a hardware packet accelerator does.

Yup, that would help; we see basically 2-3x improvement in routing
performance with XDP over the regular stack. Don't think there's XDP
support in any of the low-end ethernet drivers yet, though...

-Toke

  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-24 11:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-23  0:49 [Bloat] " Dave Taht
2018-08-23  5:47 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-08-23 13:06   ` [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] " Sebastian Moeller
2018-08-23 13:57     ` Jan Ceuleers
2018-08-23 14:22       ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-08-23 15:32         ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-08-23 17:14           ` Rosen Penev
2018-08-23 17:50             ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-08-23 18:21               ` Dave Taht
2018-08-23 20:15                 ` Dave Taht
2018-08-24  7:00                   ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-08-24  8:06                     ` Dave Taht
2018-08-24 11:22                       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-24 11:46                       ` Jan Ceuleers
2018-08-24 13:43                         ` Jan Ceuleers
2018-08-24 13:44                           ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-08-24 13:56                             ` Jan Ceuleers
2018-08-24 13:36                       ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-08-24  7:05                   ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-08-24 11:24                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2018-08-23 21:01                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-24 14:44                   ` Dave Taht
2018-08-24 17:58                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-23 23:35           ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-08-24  1:08             ` David Collier-Brown
2018-08-24  6:16             ` Jan Ceuleers
2018-08-24 11:27           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-24 12:46             ` Pedro Tumusok
2018-08-24 13:09             ` Michael Richardson
2018-08-24 13:37             ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-08-24 13:44               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-26  4:29           ` [Bloat] Marvell 385 Dave Taht
2018-08-26  4:32             ` Jonathan Morton
2018-08-26 16:28             ` Rosen Penev
2018-08-26 18:44             ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-08-26 20:53               ` Dave Taht
2018-08-26 20:58               ` Rosen Penev
2018-08-26 21:08                 ` Dave Taht
2018-08-27  0:55                   ` Rosen Penev
2018-08-27  1:21                     ` Dave Taht
2018-08-27  1:33                       ` Rosen Penev
2018-08-27  1:45                         ` Dave Taht
2018-08-27  1:53                           ` Rosen Penev
2018-08-27 11:33                   ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-08-23  8:26 ` [Bloat] beating the drum for BQL Pete Heist
2018-08-23 10:51   ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-08-23 11:38     ` Pete Heist
2018-08-24 17:13   ` Pete Heist
2018-08-24 17:30     ` Dave Taht
2018-08-24 18:43       ` Dave Taht

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