From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail2.tohojo.dk (mail2.tohojo.dk [77.235.48.147]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 98F8921F237 for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 13:43:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail2.tohojo.dk Sender: toke@toke.dk DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=toke.dk; s=201310; t=1430945016; bh=lWHRTy9BReU0+VAHDi9kxpAz7k2gqh4XW8JGvK16MJU=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=dO8i7NWETovtaeMI5J/JAhpiYOIh1CnPAWZZbwuW0KWHxonDmG+oShqveugidr5Bv Fp6jPSGv+z0jHPM1UPTYeK3IGtWepoMPfyFik4OXav+ICykmA1rIY/UlBnflCM7tRF iM8wrNe+A1gawQrveTkSn+qbjnP3quNwsW6YH36w= Received: by alrua-karlstad.karlstad.toke.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 44B0235976E; Wed, 6 May 2015 22:43:35 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Toke_H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= To: Jonathan Morton References: <1429717468.18561.90.camel@edumazet-glaptop2.roam.corp.google.com> <5537CDB7.60301@orange.com> <1429722979.18561.112.camel@edumazet-glaptop2.roam.corp.google.com> <5537DA20.1090008@orange.com> <5537DE4D.8090100@orange.com> <553882D7.4020301@orange.com> <1429771718.22254.32.camel@edumazet-glaptop2.roam.corp.google.com> <6C0D04CF-53AA-4D18-A4E4-B746AF6487C7@gmx.de> <87wq123p5r.fsf@toke.dk> <2288B614-B415-4017-A842-76E8F5DFDE4C@gmx.de> <553B06CE.1050209@superduper.net> <14ceed3c818.27f7.e972a4f4d859b00521b2b659602cb2f9@superduper.net> <0C930D43-A05B-48E2-BC01-792CAA72CAD1@gmx.de> <5549A1B8.50005@superduper.net> Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 22:43:35 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Jonathan Morton's message of "Wed, 6 May 2015 23:25:51 +0300") X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Message-ID: <87oalxjv2g.fsf@alrua-karlstad.karlstad.toke.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] DSLReports Speed Test has latency measurement built-in X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 20:44:15 -0000 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 20:44:15 -0000 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 20:44:15 -0000 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 20:44:15 -0000 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 20:44:15 -0000 Jonathan Morton writes: > Compare these totals to twice the ITU benchmark figures, rate > accordingly, and plot on a map. A nice way of visualising this can be 'radius of reach within n milliseconds'. Or, 'number of people reachable within n ms'. This paper uses that (or something very similar) to visualise the benefits of speed-of-light internet: http://web.engr.illinois.edu/~singla2/papers/hotnets14.pdf That same paper uses 30 ms as an 'instant response' number, btw, citing this: http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/consciousness-temporal/empirical-findings.html -Toke