From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail2.tohojo.dk (mail2.tohojo.dk [77.235.48.147]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C68821F1B1 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 13:22:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail2.tohojo.dk Sender: toke@toke.dk DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=toke.dk; s=201310; t=1430252516; bh=QOGuJrz5K6XTi3dgIlML6AbSmThLqGmqBRgQbJC95XU=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=lF2BdolfvzJmSvTmjbE6crY5oxDHSYCTmgIHtOry2FoMslV4v/GR042iYfKbwSahy blXulqA9rpwP7ZbXkke5Zrv0a+AxCn981VQdgjGJpfYrszYSaoAAUj+Y/++heiKfop mykDLD+8uHPhz3aycP1VI/IlQKsFBUme+u4z4wjE= Received: by alrua-karlstad.karlstad.toke.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7F77933314B; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 22:21:55 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Toke_H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= To: jb References: Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 22:21:55 +0200 In-Reply-To: (jb's message of "Wed, 29 Apr 2015 01:22:17 +1000") X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Message-ID: <87oam8gg0s.fsf@toke.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] the dslreports png X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 20:22:45 -0000 jb writes: > I agree! but I don't want to rush. What latency should substitute? average? > median? latency during upload? download? both? should it be the excess over > idle ping, expressed as a multiplier? an absolute value? A range? So keep the base ping, but add a "bloat" value underneath it (colour-coded as appropriate)? -Toke