From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-04-ewr.dyndns.com (mxout-023-ewr.mailhop.org [216.146.33.23]) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6D82E0EA3 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2011 14:44:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from scan-01-ewr.mailhop.org (scanner [10.0.141.223]) by mail-04-ewr.dyndns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E907E7693 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2011 22:44:02 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 () X-Mail-Handler: MailHop by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 75.145.127.229 Received: from gw.co.teklibre.org (75-145-127-229-Colorado.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [75.145.127.229]) by mail-04-ewr.dyndns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17FCA7E72C6 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2011 22:44:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cruithne.co.teklibre.org (unknown [IPv6:2002:4b91:7fe5:1::20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cruithne.co.teklibre.org", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (verified OK)) by gw.co.teklibre.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B20C5ECE4 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2011 15:44:00 -0700 (MST) Received: by cruithne.co.teklibre.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3200E121FB7; Sat, 12 Feb 2011 15:43:59 -0700 (MST) From: d@taht.net (Dave =?utf-8?Q?T=C3=A4ht?=) To: Bill Sommerfeld Organization: Teklibre - http://www.teklibre.com References: <87sjvtszce.fsf@cruithne.co.teklibre.org> Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 15:43:59 -0700 In-Reply-To: (Bill Sommerfeld's message of "Sat, 12 Feb 2011 14:18:00 -0800") Message-ID: <87oc6gub4g.fsf@cruithne.co.teklibre.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] 2 weeks worth of progress on bufferbloat X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 22:44:08 -0000 Bill Sommerfeld writes: > On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 13:43, Dave T=C3=A4ht wrote: >> http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/bloat/wiki/Humor > > overheard at work: "Bufferbloat .. is that the new global warming?" God I hope not. I got involved in this after seeing some top minds (nagle, phil karn) NOT get the size of the unmanaged buffers problem, and clueless commenters on slashdot and arstechnica... And I still have the claw marks on my back from both sides of the AGW debate. At least we can experiment with bufferbloat without putting the planet at risk. Mostly. I am not alarmed enough yet to make comparisons to Y2K[1] - but will sleep better after the background bufferbloat detector starts working AND hopefully a few years worth of data can serve as a baseline for whatever trend might exist. I got bogged down in detail between ntp's data types and postgres and haven't had a chance to get back to it. I tossed your joke into the humor page anyway. --=20 Dave Taht http://nex-6.taht.net 1: http://www.taht.net/uncle_bills_helicopter.html