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Subject: Re: [Bloat] Fwd: Did *bufferbloat* cause the 2010 flashcrash?
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Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> writes:

> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
>
>> [1] For the purposes of the question, the =E2=80=9CBitTorrent problem=E2=
=80=9D is when you and
>> I are on the same network, and your 200+ BitTorrent upload sessions make=
s it
>> impossible for me to upload my single cat video to YouTube.
>
> Isn't this dependent on the upload speed? I would imagine that if it's 5-=
10
> megabit/s, then using Codel or similar technique that doesn't allow the b=
uffer
> to grow to hundreds of milliseconds, would improve things a lot?
>
> For a 500 kilobit/s link, I'm not sure even that would work...?

There are two separate issues:=20

-Toke