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From: Dave Taht <dave@taht.net>
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Cc: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>, bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
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Subject: Re: [Bloat] one benefit of turning off shaping + fq_codel
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David Lang <david@lang.hm> writes:

> On Wed, 14 Nov 2018, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
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>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2018, Dave Taht wrote:
>>
>>> It turns out we are contributing to global warming.
>>>
>>>
>> https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Routing-Switching/USG-temperature/m-p/2547046/highlight/true#M115060
>
> so how much power is wasted in re-transmitting packets due to bloat?

That might be a good way to look at it also. It seems possible
to make the calculation in time for midnight of march 31st.

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