From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-14-ewr.dyndns.com (mxout-066-ewr.mailhop.org [216.146.33.66]) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5B7C2E020F for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:51:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from scan-12-ewr.mailhop.org (scan-12-ewr.local [10.0.141.230]) by mail-14-ewr.dyndns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 809689CFC0F for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:51:21 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 () X-Mail-Handler: MailHop by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 75.145.127.229 Received: from gw.co.teklibre.org (75-145-127-229-Colorado.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [75.145.127.229]) by mail-14-ewr.dyndns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 252829CFAB6 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:51:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cruithne.co.teklibre.org (unknown [IPv6:2002:4b91:7fe5:2:21c:25ff:fe80:46f9]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cruithne.co.teklibre.org", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (verified OK)) by gw.co.teklibre.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B62B5EF7B for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 09:51:20 -0700 (MST) Received: by cruithne.co.teklibre.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 657DB121B16; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 09:51:17 -0700 (MST) From: d@taht.net (Dave =?utf-8?Q?T=C3=A4ht?=) To: Carlos , bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net Organization: Teklibre - http://www.teklibre.com References: <87vd0oq6mj.fsf@cruithne.co.teklibre.org> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 09:51:17 -0700 In-Reply-To: (carlos@bueno.org's message of "Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:09:23 -0800") Message-ID: <87sjvmfvui.fsf_-_@cruithne.co.teklibre.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Bloat] packet flight and bufferbloat visualizations X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:51:24 -0000 Carlos writes: > That's an interesting idea. One problem with packet flight is that > it's difficult to see how to aggregate many samples in a meaningful > way. It's more useful for education than analysis. > > Russ Cox has an alternative idea here: > http://research.swtch.com/2010/12/visualizing-tcp.html > > mnot also has htracr: http://www.mnot.net/blog/2010/11/27/htracr > > On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Dave T=C3=A4ht wrote: >> >> Packet flight looks extremely promising... >>=20=20 >> https://github.com/aristus/packet-flight#readme >> >> What happens if you run against gettys' data? (Mentally I forsee the >> need to zoom out from the animation several lunar distances) >> >> http://people.freedesktop.org/~jg/Experiments/ >> >> -- >> Dave Taht >> http://www.bufferbloat.net >>