From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.toke.dk (mail.toke.dk [IPv6:2a0c:4d80:42:2001::664]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 98CC73CB35 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2020 09:24:47 -0500 (EST) From: Toke =?utf-8?Q?H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=toke.dk; s=20161023; t=1604586286; bh=B2M6qDXgwyArDlLZ1K/nLK5+clXxKc+BdT1sEbeIw9g=; h=From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=sGBHDJCpg/lyk8PMaFgUgi5pDY6xBaM8gMGi1+oueQ4mGskYRBQJjWBHdPdsHA7xu zrQyDsb04fNKC7QVFnWitRUcUYCl6O7PLdbGauDUGR+mHuB3vpeqruW7JJqWnYLhg8 ZovEtA0yGD4NSdBChvwL9Gi1J4uq2PfiP/OLHwSxA9dNNuTaQnjc89rJtTfyEX51ip gxaKA9IycJE1poFOkiQxXcUS8bHknNxOAoPRFj0Fumd+sQuv4fUKUccqYsPasL+myn xriDU5COyPyoV6UEPeuL4Tvv/8D8rmSXW5OjOPZU8ECkF2ZU5w2eV4RcHut8AnZfdG l363RwtFYZycg== To: dave.collier-brown@indexexchange.com, bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net In-Reply-To: References: <87mtzwt47a.fsf@toke.dk> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2020 15:24:46 +0100 X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Message-ID: <87wnyzswy9.fsf@toke.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Bloat] Comparing bufferbloat tests (was: We built a new bufferbloat test and keen for feedback) X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2020 14:24:47 -0000 Dave Collier-Brown writes: > On 2020-11-05 6:48 a.m., Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen via Bloat wrote: > > Also, holy cow, what's going on with your connection? The unloaded > latency says 17/110/200 min/median/max RTT. Is that due to bad > measurements, or do you have a lot of cross traffic and a really bloated > link? :/ > > -Toke > > > The tests differ somewhat while looking at an unloaded residential link p= rovided by a local monopoly, Rogers Cable, and mitigated by an IQrouter (my= old linksys is long dead (;-)) > > DSLReports says > > * 144.7 Mb/s down > * 14.05 MB/s up > * bufferbloat A+ > * downloading lag 40-100 ms Still a pretty big span from 40-100ms; how does that turn into an A+ score, I wonder? > Waveform says: > > * 43.47 Mbps down > * 16.05 Mbps up > * bufferbloat grade A+ > * unloaded latency 93.5 ms > > So we're reporting different speeds and RTTs. Are we using different > units or definitions, I wonder? Well either that, or one of the tests is just busted. My immediate guess would be the not-yet-released prototype is the least accurate ;) I do wonder why, though... -Toke