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From: d@taht.net (Dave Täht)
To: richard <richard@pacdat.net>
Cc: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Bloat] How do we shift the market?
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 09:27:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zkq6bigb.fsf@cruithne.co.teklibre.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110206210317.GC3004@thyrsus.com> (Eric Raymond's message of "Sun, 6 Feb 2011 16:03:17 -0500")

Eric Raymond <esr@thyrsus.com> writes:

> richard <richard@pacdat.net>:
>> I see wiki.bufferbloat.net has the "It Works" up on it - a page here on
>> terms would be a good thing.

There *is* no wiki.bufferbloat.net site. 

Successful lookups for that are artifact of bufferbloat.net's current
DNS provider, name.com, which not only never serves up a NXDOMAIN
record, but supplies a *random*, *invalid* ipv6 address for it.

d@cruithne:$ host wiki.bufferbloat.net

  wiki.bufferbloat.net has address 149.20.54.81 

  wiki.bufferbloat.net has IPv6 address 1d00:6574:63:6f6d:6c:2e63:2800:0

d@cruithne:$ host a.random.site.bufferbloat.net

  a.random.site.bufferbloat.net has address 149.20.54.81
  a.random.site.bufferbloat.net has IPv6 address
  7262:6c6f:6174:36e:6574:2036:3034:3830

I first noticed this behavior a few weeks ago. Originally it was worse -
it would wildcard all invalid names to an ad-filled site.

The number of things that this behavior breaks is rather large: email
rbls, people that default to ipv6, the fact that I cannot use short
hostnames, and more than once a typo sent me to the wrong machine
entirely.

I've been meaning to take these issues up with name.com once I can do so
calmly, and rationally, with tact, and diplomacy.

For now, please stick with www.bufferbloat.net as your entry point to
the site!

>
> I am *so* there! :-)
>
> I'll start a glossary page.

There's one started. I don't know if redmine can do a media-wiki like
thing and let us mark articles as belonging to a given catagory? So I
setup the glossary page to just {{include(other pages)}} for now.

I would love to see all the terms we are using tightly defined, with
definitions on the wiki... Y'all 

In particular I would like to extend "Dark Buffers" to include the
concept of retries - or come up with another term for it.

-- 
Dave Taht
http://nex-6.taht.net

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-02-08 16:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-06 16:42 Jim Gettys
2011-02-06 17:21 ` richard
2011-02-06 21:03   ` Eric Raymond
2011-02-08 16:09     ` John W. Linville
2011-02-08 16:41       ` Jim Gettys
2011-02-08 16:27     ` Dave Täht [this message]
2011-02-06 20:58 ` Eric Raymond

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