From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 26EC23B29D for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2022 16:13:48 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1666469627; bh=AHoV7NwP6W7kZvlrnmoLxFp8dUsiF3/J8xi8b92mbmc=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To; b=Ami3MvhhE0JRRMTPbhgggLZF4GjmBYbojlFbjZjdtHUTj1pHNg+dz8MJtQDFH2hzp lPsUJs8tCmN7lO/APuSgo21LoscsCV/SmhEwU+AFy0/Eui3Ktq0KJbBXfdipTrJjnU Er8FCP10UoDjy2uIQ5zX63wIQPAu0dqlv1e4FXU0= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from smtpclient.apple ([134.76.241.253]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1Ml6mE-1pVai63qjE-00lS1C; Sat, 22 Oct 2022 22:13:47 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.120.41.1.1\)) From: Sebastian Moeller In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 22:13:45 +0200 Cc: Matt Taggart , bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8A7E8D41-5AF4-414B-82B2-4D0F8C38CE22@gmx.de> References: <938D9D45-DADA-4291-BD8A-84E4257CEE49@apple.com> <6710sq51-1151-s739-qq87-0r5264qrs9q8@ynat.uz> To: =?utf-8?Q?Dave_T=C3=A4ht?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.120.41.1.1) X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Nm7BgoZRYfgN7vQT5+Dsh1auEX13TJRQDQPxGNWuMFRAKTHzUfz BSmoEGcua3baxMRJBEAtmoXuSgEWkupy4LLNFN2czGtl9HDyVQuvYBI40COzYpxNPO3evVr W9eHWpMbI5nb26IVV9f0Lcv7trQm/g9CbPcK47LzF001f+X5rs9FMiyV4GeELCAU2EAQ4/X IKXlhAr24/WxrhvAOh7ZA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:aCLFQRQH3a0=:PCcAraxAQ/2H8et5xj6F62 hwnYaA7z8IjaKnbprxWDuLU1lC7E+4q/DWiIkvOlPDwdDfGgbAecI/z4Nka1ucR4ar6x5vhK5 txVd9SQrgvCAKEI7A9emWvdRZJteOiDG8QNHZyxS3Ovwn2t4TtleUH8IF9ppgj68ak6A+Ny+C wiUazj+qKlN3PK2Dtx2JsjDJUt8bHyAAJMDbXMVtNRoST4X1IKmB/ptUB0/adz5iFN0++T9vJ 4GIl661eEktV5MeSKk3LpmLGkZyGav6Vv/ZizC3rKgl8EiJy08og7c11b/F2ma7D7CTKjOeOp 1z8MojEXZswAhYFTRl8K4VenSiU3WaHIW57P9bYzIPbIYwST+sJ8KTRzrKOB3RwVSQ5r5ouSV 6NqM+KksZYvHvHPSgIadbV6uhMesRMItd9lIDM9+obmdDvw5FaEslt9AtOzwbm2KuysoFngNf rcJ7FRRXtpvIAXnABYPedd3vZlvHbOQH+U0asaggogruEiHIMjhQvh17LCs1VsgGwdOMOVZDX H9vT5W1MSG3mbNCinq0q5Cmwm6JdR8YFm73fkO2J7bxmiJBVJo2nnWTlu1EDpzC8Kqhm3eq8c 04sHC3OhSPbtSC+qvtXFBhS350cZRkXzFw3dW1HDW/BKnvlJCSN7gaY6BYRFoF7bipzuaRrHt bChPXZwUXzb/kjdfaKPyktpVtQF6wfzlcpuSMCnDfyQgDO+t4C9FwiSVC1kU6N5t2DCs2+EEg tkQzNk/z1e05KNVwwSI/bR7vB0F/rGCUoXohgG6YYDHpLyGN0th0iPvuXQWYtnFlVtwha9gNq OGlbyK/adKsOZSkiNq1qk1nTi0iZoR7pU4dnFQgOXUCGdFmQl0Npxf//kb0CNxLQhtdwVFxSS CwjSS5W9YWeON2gitVTieQYjyEXENMtMEDxO2xcrbn454L3rX5as3osx6d20W014ahQ3BZODJ oeX7srZXJhNer2crFwoyY+53yka5377JCEQYby1SPIJlfhpAE6TTKj5+yFflIUm6wZIQSCzU6 fnDptm8tCEacstR61NiYVcBBI0FYoP6+aiH5acN+fSyJUPPiSYRW6JWM6klLQ+kGZH/67yG1J rt62vq+63/S2OSp+h3GyA9cbhr8RgyoQKQfBFbUi0+vE39fL6SZQPmVIXGYKCxq74/KpNGPBc Yca4ZmegYT0TygKDvtC4akVH8kd0IhsylIGuVg8Bjllu/mHi92VInwsPp6ysXHg9VvrGC9wEF r+oDA/LORkl1at9yTN6sUY2HKmucIpZlj2/N20wn2I9UTdPAvkfKb/22vn7USd2UcqKxfJsZ5 n8sNTex3PesmRfCE9CBESu41ZpKQRPNEPgWaTyiZJ+6RKFa9MZslrfjrxoU43h2p1kkYU5DmE 8Oup2v+X/4GSc8FG1j3IIA1DvaZDLEZj1Iq2/iLeUuV4T7VoNP1sFeCSABdxe57JqiOc1MDx0 LJS+zDx0tzWwhcGFldRCKmvbK6pNm5qkNm1lSYs/IAkeAWvUYrlKgEmIQ6DmjjVZn/hX94msB X1GhLhOGoAsFdacHsW89QZBhhVaDyTQ9KR+SvzT0mw/eQ Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Make-wifi-fast] The most wonderful video ever about bufferbloat X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 20:13:49 -0000 Hi Dave, > On Oct 22, 2022, at 20:58, Dave Taht via Bloat = wrote: >=20 > I did finally come up with a better analogy. >=20 > Imagine, instead, 1024 checkers all waiting, all the time, just for = you! Assuming the flow hash works well enough and the number of flows = is small enough compared to the number of hash bins, this might be = easier described as having an individual cashier per customer. However this has a certain Kafka ring to it, see = https://homepage.univie.ac.at/st.mueller/kafka_english.html > (this is similar to how frys electronics used to work) I only remember the fancy store design they had, each location = different; I confess I actually stopped on trips to "visit" different = novel Fry's locations. > It's a computer! None of them have to get paid! It only costs 8k of > memory to have them there! But that still leaves the problem that the buildings egress = capacity is limited and it might not be able to allow one customer per = cashier to leave at the very same time. >=20 > I'd actually like to do a followup video with that guru floating above > the cart, and maybe talk to wifi. Are we sure what the guru is supposed to say yet? (Also didn't = AmigaOS call some of its errors Guru Meditation? Apparently it did, see = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guru_Meditation). Regards Sebastian > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat