From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.18]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 211A221F45C for ; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 09:30:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hms-beagle.home.lan ([87.164.165.7]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MfEZG-1Yyd341jFC-00OqIv; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 18:30:24 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) From: Sebastian Moeller In-Reply-To: <75C1DDFF-FBD2-4825-A167-92DFCF6A7713@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 18:30:23 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8AD4493E-EA21-496D-923D-B4257B078A1C@gmx.de> References: <75C1DDFF-FBD2-4825-A167-92DFCF6A7713@gmail.com> To: Jonathan Morton X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:TGTA8ChqXvlrQiLJn69phmQMAUVnAGx3YOwf/h3LN2Rx5gZBi7O Df07CUrqsLtc/greexwkLoScpROiEx+0s4k9Mtu+AptM7Zi5VFguKrrtDHb3NSoftrjPrwB X+/QuMtAEM0Iewy02awxX8wcSGqJ+0FvlgNeFac/ND4cuSWxllRKTTMxHnAQxDqNqHyPgEq JN7QV9E23eyVvFwTNeGMA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; Cc: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: Re: [Bloat] DSLReports Speed Test has latency measurement built-in X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 16:31:04 -0000 Hi Jonathan, On Apr 19, 2015, at 12:46 , Jonathan Morton = wrote: >=20 >> On 19 Apr, 2015, at 13:20, Sebastian Moeller wrote: >>=20 >> Reporting the latency under load as frequency (inverse of delay time) = would be nice in that higher numbers denote a "better=94 link, but has = the issue that it is going to be hard to quickly add different latency = sources/components... >=20 > Personally I=92d say that this disadvantage matters more to us = scientists and engineers than to end-users. Frequency readouts are = probably more accessible to the latter. The frequency domain more accessible to laypersons? I have my = doubts ;) I like your responsiveness frequency roprt as I tend to call = it myself, but I more and more think calling the whole thing latency = cost or latency tax will make everybody understand that it should be = minimized, plus it allows for easier calculations=85. ;) Best Regards Sebastian >=20 > - Jonathan Morton >=20