From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lj1-x234.google.com (mail-lj1-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C677E3CB3B for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 11:43:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-lj1-x234.google.com with SMTP id u6-v6so11169445ljd.1 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 08:43:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=hkolUhYtI9EcJ4z8VbTHtiOV/bKuf98Ir27yT/veIko=; b=u++PYSHIgP+PtD3iGSJzRLZM0GtWJBwZ18MA0l6FA1IYLxJiEb/7yPZIWc39HEbF/g ELlfpxiedAtrKs8CKJeR2xl2VkAboP5h0aoITVZs8W+vGePk3UZOrEQrdcbLCYLLK9Co JWVIvZkfh1BYX5202p8tFgjARErcbkm+MwLKQnM6r6uFXye+0QE1OF1IFSx4ppPVUf8H ET+liZek0W6hR0I8uHfYQslw2ldYqjnYM9ZMXByOm6jnpCwNq0XqCcxixej/x0l8tuqs rVXnzigccLvhhrXhh69V2LUkbxa27/IXCev/USdT1p72YeWjP4D2x1dmMeufMFf9BuBV UkRA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=hkolUhYtI9EcJ4z8VbTHtiOV/bKuf98Ir27yT/veIko=; b=Hr+A6wP8AW/8CP+hxzVEMJz2E/VYdQCRE990bW18TQvv2K1gT33pDY/xny6sRc6SQC iHoNmbh6K7xuSZa4fLLEkjuShmjr2DdcCPt8GObnbrcpTe+KKn2ODCvkEp7Rf8EvvCuT fc2IqOfbnM8ExuGe9OOB17Bjy0rBWrBa4jBnZQxh3DRfmew+w+J/pQrD5pf3kgJZmfdo IckT8LtA5J1XrI8vHyOKn4dWMNmUoalxeb0vwvJjlvSGrgCdicDuS8xD8vIu+k1bQyeF /vDnVwbVp94zzeQ0iU213FfvYGI7NtihFq/Y2hZjDSp/KCqPYF2i6SidahLzvSum4TTI rW+Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWaWGy0NrRPrYtkCJNCNxWn6I+flBY07v0RAQMIoEbUPatiLERNV kE8Vaht1/F+I5UHBXILtrIk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/WyK8UemYAxEJAk2J5y24+4DtJiWe7qIHHS3LF6sC5nQHb0ggQ8HfyBUcvSKHfQKDGok7AOew== X-Received: by 2002:a2e:e02:: with SMTP id 2-v6mr9128615ljo.10.1542991384649; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 08:43:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from jonathartonsmbp.lan (83-245-236-220-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi. [83.245.236.220]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v5-v6sm8168416lje.78.2018.11.23.08.43.03 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 23 Nov 2018 08:43:04 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: <87r2fbzrng.fsf@taht.net> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 18:43:02 +0200 Cc: Pete Heist , bloat Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8F4997E9-B7A3-4095-8183-89CCC53E11AB@gmail.com> References: <6C1479A8-43E8-4F89-BCEA-1D28CA3E8589@heistp.net> <87r2fbzrng.fsf@taht.net> To: Dave Taht X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Subject: Re: [Bloat] one benefit of turning off shaping + fq_codel X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 16:43:06 -0000 > On 23 Nov, 2018, at 6:26 pm, Dave Taht wrote: >=20 >> (I noticed an audience member brought this up in Toke=E2=80=99s = thesis >> defense) >=20 > I sadly slept through that. I hope it was recorded. As it was streamed on YT, YT archived it. - Jonathan Morton