From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 026B93B29D for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2024 05:18:21 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmx.de; s=s31663417; t=1721035101; x=1721639901; i=moeller0@gmx.de; bh=CIDk6XhcjnWGDuxFu9Mv9Z0CPUsRlcp+UcPQe7l2ekA=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From: In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id: References:To:cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from: message-id:mime-version:reply-to:subject:to; b=LXV6Eani+Vc36I5dmJvA4SwOqswgxjDDFgs8ry2IiYte/tAMCFu1Zu8vCM6nvIM2 bQByLLwq2NxQqtzq/wJcUaH37z/H58c0RWGsR+tIsNAz5unOEdRgjpkgyz6GhI8+h HqIqCMAPf4gW42WRgK/BxuvCy41usxvG7bQo05Isew3+WXQABfav4zUfpbKRaj1Oa svt1hcXwnVDNG64VYCmL9xTMuDtzLyY/nNl39xvt9NFhz5q9RH79JKtCDzabC+1Qz c0YnvEjcsY3dKI3VlQ/djHw5BcWeQnspOEff3yCocAiRDw1gQAj69qm50JykGwn/t O2kexBwAJI7c41/tKw== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from smtpclient.apple ([77.0.154.109]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MYeR1-1sq1dP3kqx-00NNL4; Mon, 15 Jul 2024 11:18:20 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.600.62\)) From: Sebastian Moeller In-Reply-To: <8d89d7ec-558e-4498-9457-3c6dd90eb03f@rogers.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 11:18:10 +0200 Cc: bloat Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8FBDAF2F-DF18-4FFD-A589-EF2323B6820A@gmx.de> References: <9B529996-9FF0-4487-8F74-B01230E6FCA1@viagenie.ca> <11567.1720044376@obiwan.sandelman.ca> <8d89d7ec-558e-4498-9457-3c6dd90eb03f@rogers.com> To: David Collier-Brown X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.600.62) X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:GtdMskAo2pHpGMvr3lhpbmEE1ksRmurbraRU70h/pc4Y1XkIw2B +XKfVASXGj1iV3SsS2CdRU9vS9Rl0XNshBTokIVh9RQLYugadoKzYtiUv767/lz6Fnj5biq HsIQhVtSrBm1rIdn9Nlm9+Ux76QenyLDZApEbC6TMsm8jynTqgs6ATsyWlWm0jvUFpTP5H5 xKgtEaN2t8//toUqUidYQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:hzMI4YHnU5g=;jyKdfiJ6J5gQxpYrhC7y+XXZrzt NJCve5CXURJZJTUNenzEBNNoVyTtHgCH8xliZmfSnb/tf1BitfDEQ2TrPSjpm6q2P82BQOFOQ fJiVKgF3Y4CzfS9bHbDXUKkKG33RpUSnB3w9Ghr2IsvJJyz0TfeZF5f9G/D2LiDsnLngQmudF 0HI2lZUuPSWnPaXDcjAyekkmLrt2ktcDm2Sd377tA/dws1feEHHErDCQ9/ARHMipT0OX0khbh uBODJS4Jx4JHElYmF2aHC4xhNX+2VB6jwfBcZM2lT7VUCFIjGgpFc2t4w7ZtzUcIqAfr/5XzH lJWwMyA/XGPtc44PPKHPn63dxxxHYnDN1qoNmoJDrm8P3PJYFmii78YglY8LRIMc4GTEapNM/ pQlJSG1bYN1m3fQHnKZ9E2r3wgmMpPWONcZN5tZUebhRTDNiRop8eOJVa0uFxcUE/PuWqKLxf jjSAyTaGRFCxGJfLCH6lz8wMtnHiWoYsGfzY4eyGEL2redXY9VlQr+UfA1+uG61i8YDEo7wf7 IHyZGonHVtC8+giad0oZYo4OuCVaraEoY/U8LTgNPhdMr1aFrL2EPplbzpT3kzdvsC/mJ7/5C dGGI2PCIDR5ncA9tDSoSE21K1otsGPaKuKPJUZiVLBtUXrJCoIQuMq5pfFvVHsrd+0Yr21oQ6 NuQAFPFuOoyxeO+RiDuiw0EZx3mg7q852ebMgp5417pH7m677JkcHYEQdJnibjX0B8XLw9dF6 Z+WnRooEd2nUBw+PVApowbCt7WWUdYOoMoALEu6SQfGJAExoRHLKjCxs0z1oZV7+78pZTh415 3WXO//QcDSZAXxxrMUnzdHJw== Subject: Re: [Bloat] An ACM Queue article about bloat and LibraQoS X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 09:18:22 -0000 Hi Dave, nice! I only would have wished for the A-grade waveform result as well, = it is a bit of a downer that the last figure show the unpleasant = 'before' status only. Regards Sebastian > On 14. Jul 2024, at 23:30, David Collier-Brown via Bloat = wrote: >=20 > I have a new article on ACM Queue, at = https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/3674953 > "If you're an ISP and all your customers hate you, take heart. This is = now a solvable problem." > It's part of a tongue-in-cheek series called "You Don't Know Jack", = and it's about Bufferbloat and the LibreQoS project.=20 > --dave > --=20 > David Collier-Brown, | Always do right. This will gratify > System Programmer and Author | some people and astonish the rest > davecb@spamcop.net | -- Mark Twain > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat