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From: Pete Heist <pete@heistp.net>
To: Dave Taht <dave@taht.net>
Cc: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>,
	ECN-Sane <ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Ecn-sane]    sce materials from ietf
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 10:57:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <92AFD3DE-A8A3-4CA2-8BFB-CFB5E446524A@heistp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lfrvl22k.fsf@taht.net>


> On Dec 2, 2019, at 6:38 AM, Dave Taht <dave@taht.net> wrote:
> 
> I do hate watching y'all continually concede the "latency" point and
> have to argue on the "chosen ground" of single or dualq about
> long-running tcp flows. 

I don’t think we’ve conceded that. It would be possible to run more tests on a LAN with a shorter Codel interval and show ~1ms TCP RTT, and perhaps we should. I don’t think there's any fundamental reason why one signaling mechanism or the other should ultimately be any better in this regard.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-12-02  9:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-29 20:08 [Bloat] " Dave Taht
2019-11-29 21:20 ` Jonathan Morton
2019-11-29 23:10   ` alex.burr
2019-11-30  1:39     ` Jonathan Morton
2019-11-30  7:27       ` [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] " Sebastian Moeller
2019-11-30 14:32         ` Jonathan Morton
2019-11-30 15:42           ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-11-30 17:11             ` Jonathan Morton
2019-12-02  5:38               ` Dave Taht
2019-12-02  7:54                 ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-12-02  9:57                 ` Pete Heist [this message]
2019-11-30 22:17           ` Carsten Bormann
2019-11-30 22:23             ` Jonathan Morton
2019-12-01 16:35               ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-12-01 16:54                 ` Jonathan Morton
2019-12-01 19:03                   ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-12-01 19:27                     ` Jonathan Morton
2019-12-01 19:32                       ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-12-01 20:30                         ` Jonathan Morton
2019-12-01 17:30                 ` Rodney W. Grimes
2019-12-01 19:17                   ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-12-02  5:10                     ` Dave Taht
2019-12-02  7:18                       ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-12-01 18:06                 ` David Collier-Brown
2019-11-29 22:55 ` Rodney W. Grimes
2019-11-29 22:58   ` Rodney W. Grimes
2019-11-30  2:37 ` [Bloat] " Dave Taht
2019-11-30  3:10   ` [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] " Rodney W. Grimes

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