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From: Rich Brown <richb.hanover@gmail.com>
To: "Dave Täht" <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>, Rpm <rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Rpm] broadband cost analysis
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 11:40:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9363DD4A-BADD-4AD3-9730-406F5B3F7F3B@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw6nfD1pVAp1-CU+cTOh5KAXLe8sOyB0b7c_v=ROqu0uoQ@mail.gmail.com>

One item to consider re: costs. My rural NH town just installed fiber to run past all premises. A quick estimate of total capital cost uses two numbers:

- $40K/mile to hang the fiber on existing utility poles on the road
- $2K-$4K per premise for the drop cable from the pole and the router in the premise


> On Apr 14, 2022, at 11:24 AM, Dave Taht via Rpm <rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> 
> Looking at figure 7 (non-adoption rates by age group), nearly 30% of
> those under 30 do not have fixed broadband.
> From an informal survey of those I know in that age range, they are
> primarily dependent on their cell phones,
> cannot live at a fixed address for long enough to adopt fixed
> broadband solutions, and go to coffee shops and
> libraries (and the office) to get their connectivity. I am kind of
> curious as to the trendline here - a cellphone is a must
> for this generation, quality fixed internet merely a nice to have.
> 
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 8:18 AM Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> pretty good:
>> 
>> https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5f5282b71117310d16e654d3/t/6256eb4efbb468024f396969/1649863506445/Toward+Effective+Administration+of+State+and+Local+Fixed+Broadband+Programs+-+04.12.22+Final+Report.pdf
>> 
>> My lowball cost estimate for "better, recycled routers" would be
>> somewhere in the 20 dollar range for the 25/3mbit segment, which
>> depending on how you do the math per above is somewhere between 10 and
>> 65 million people.
>> 
>> It would be cool to have good bufferbloat statistics for the 25/3mbit
>> portion of the population.
>> 
>> --
>> I tried to build a better future, a few times:
>> https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org
>> 
>> Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> I tried to build a better future, a few times:
> https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org
> 
> Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
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  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-14 15:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-14 15:18 [Bloat] " Dave Taht
2022-04-14 15:24 ` Dave Taht
2022-04-14 15:40   ` Rich Brown [this message]
2022-04-15 14:48     ` [Bloat] [Rpm] " Livingood, Jason
2022-04-15 15:28       ` Dave Taht
2022-04-14 17:28   ` [Bloat] " Michael Richardson

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