From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-yw1-xc31.google.com (mail-yw1-xc31.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::c31]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D39BE3B2A4 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2018 03:53:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-yw1-xc31.google.com with SMTP id v197-v6so10277346ywg.3 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2018 00:53:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LZGVLDgEXbh0176yMV57QHGD/Dlw73p37AZ4myo55Tc=; b=EC+rUTeMvrUimV8OcNOqrvuasUztrtD3pm4xnt2ogSYT5SvVtAG1fR2MJf0CnnYvzZ kC3qzvt8N/ZAx8ywCTsefxj+2tuqYnDEnIqqmxqbSRHz07SDxAMhJ3rbT44YjO9LGjmm hjhqHtyo3jsiHKtdY0Swy74zqeOvzhZYIn1lQJssvYkHDUOxgq53Cdxx23YdwoNZW1JH rvQEtpv1K/E0ziJy6f4s2ULG+QcOLsRKi7dVPEBfeq9d+/DsPCHT60BJMZQP+qqaMbgr PCt+JfXj0bcXc+hITZeSr/MJpJhskIpEGQQYHsYh/13fOm2c6bcD9aUF4ZH55rWTjoyP DwfQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=LZGVLDgEXbh0176yMV57QHGD/Dlw73p37AZ4myo55Tc=; b=U+b5Dnl+d0wqR0IRoYhX8dbv98idK3XRzzD4xUmR03sTPkqmJ1m+mSmI4bavXo9DyT hZCDDq0gd0TGwPoyAaMLiadEeJ6cziLAoMQdVy8EmSPkTtKPRPZDdyFwGrjcR+fQCjo8 PMrp5afCQnF4NoFLuO4CjcIBAJYH4JHBuJjSW5b/+mVW6JyyKBVjXcV0gYk6uUssynag Z2dmf7Ft2NJuCdY+MNmwZ8FIDeE+bHhuLh13rH7veLRM/9HvMkJINDLT71Aap5t1qd2w 4/jfDl6m3krhgawxT89h7ypCHnWuHnJveVSZWnQtcJz5QZ0P8BhGkhT0cOqMOayAMaVH Twgw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlFZxq2pAIoBmDjklg+W8M8MpBfdK/rU4NPP6WnjGLD9yusJm/SR 8aHzun6XvsNrjfi35z7rjupeRzEM X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA+uWPwG4yhPiSfctiGMJb2cDW8BfxOC7mIZkiBkKmVY6vIe6pHmPsaOXVI3vQPFehKO74TBpiXlEA== X-Received: by 2002:a0d:c6c2:: with SMTP id i185-v6mr5534013ywd.274.1533973990022; Sat, 11 Aug 2018 00:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zotac.xperim.be ([109.131.88.236]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t6-v6sm7787569ywe.81.2018.08.11.00.53.09 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 11 Aug 2018 00:53:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.184] (bajor.xperim.be [192.168.1.184]) by zotac.xperim.be (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 66A0A493AC1; Sat, 11 Aug 2018 09:53:07 +0200 (CEST) To: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net References: <1533958499.841130592@apps.rackspace.com> From: Jan Ceuleers Message-ID: <93d08436-2fdd-f22c-6d68-b661095d960c@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 09:53:06 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1533958499.841130592@apps.rackspace.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] fcc initial comments due sept 10 X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 07:53:10 -0000 On 11/08/18 05:34, dpreed@deepplum.com wrote: > Just to remind everyone, "Broadband" is a term invented by the cable industry to describe "bundled cable TV, phone, and Internet", pretty much "aka DOCSIS". No, it's not. Not that's important, but the term was coined many years ago by the telecoms industry to distinguish high-bandwidth services from low-bandwidth ones, such as telephony, voice band modems and ISDN, which were referred to as narrowband services. For example, ADSL was regarded as a broadband service.