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From: "Richard Scheffenegger" <rscheff@gmx.at>
To: "Dave \"Täht\"" <d@taht.net>, "Eric Dumazet" <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>, bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Bloat] Random idea in reaction to all the discussion of TCPflavours - timestamps?
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 23:07:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9778FB1E95C54F4C96443A051B3E831B@srichardlxp2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fwqo54n7.fsf@cruithne.co.teklibre.org>


----- Original Message ----- 
> It would be good to know what 10Gbps hw was capable of pushing more
> smarts (such as nRED) further down into the hardware itself, this may
> inform future software abstractions and future hardware designs.
>

IEEE 802.1Qau is becoming available with CNA (converged network adapter), 
10G NIC that also have FCoE hardware on-board.

This throttles individual flows - provided the entire end-to-end network 
also supports 802.1Qau (Quantizied Congestion Notification), as a decent 
enough flow granularity.

Deploying this in core networks will require a forklift upgrade, as current 
widely deployed 10G switches don't support QCN.

On another page, cheap, widely deployed Broadcom L3 ASICs (found in the 
low-end hardware of major network vendors) support RED in hardware - 
however, OEM firmware typically doesn't allow the configuration of the full 
feature set. (DCTCP as a TCP-based QCN-like was demonstrated with custom 
broadcom firmware doing the ECN marking based, soley based on current queue 
depth).

Regards,
   Richard


  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-03-16 22:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-15 10:36 [Bloat] Random idea in reaction to all the discussion of TCP flavours " Jim Gettys
2011-03-15 14:40 ` Jim Gettys
2011-03-15 16:47   ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-15 17:59     ` Don Marti
2011-03-15 18:14       ` Rick Jones
2011-03-15 18:31         ` John W. Linville
2011-03-15 19:40           ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-15 19:59             ` Rick Jones
2011-03-15 20:51             ` John W. Linville
2011-03-15 21:31               ` Rick Jones
2011-03-16  0:32                 ` John W. Linville
2011-03-16  1:02                   ` Rick Jones
2011-03-15 22:01               ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-15 22:19                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-03-15 22:26                   ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-15 22:36                     ` Rick Jones
2011-03-15 22:40                       ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-15 22:42                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-03-15 22:52                       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-15 23:02                         ` Rick Jones
2011-03-15 23:12                         ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-15 23:25                           ` Rick Jones
2011-03-15 23:33                             ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-15 23:46                         ` Dave Täht
2011-03-16  0:49                           ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-16  1:02                             ` Dave Täht
2011-03-16  1:28                               ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-16  1:59                                 ` Dave Täht
2011-03-16  2:23                                   ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-16 22:22                                     ` [Bloat] Random idea in reaction to all the discussion of TCPflavours " Richard Scheffenegger
2011-03-16 23:38                                       ` richard
2011-03-16 23:50                                         ` Rick Jones
2011-03-17 12:05                                       ` Fred Baker
2011-03-17 12:18                                         ` Fred Baker
2011-03-17 17:27                                           ` Dave Täht
2011-03-18 18:30                                           ` Richard Scheffenegger
2011-03-18 18:49                                             ` Fred Baker
2011-03-20 11:40                                               ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-20 22:18                                                 ` david
2011-03-20 22:45                                                   ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-20 22:50                                                     ` Dave Täht
2011-03-20 22:55                                                       ` grenville armitage
2011-03-20 23:04                                                         ` Dave Täht
2011-03-20 23:14                                                           ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-20 23:19                                                             ` Dave Täht
2011-03-20 23:23                                                               ` Dave Täht
2011-03-20 22:58                                                       ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-21  1:28                                                     ` david
2011-03-21  1:56                                                       ` Wesley Eddy
2011-03-18 18:27                                       ` [Bloat] Random idea in reaction to all the discussion ofTCPflavours " Richard Scheffenegger
2011-03-16 22:07                           ` Richard Scheffenegger [this message]
2011-03-17  0:10                             ` [Bloat] Random idea in reaction to all the discussion of TCPflavours " Jonathan Morton
2011-03-16  0:47                 ` [Bloat] Random idea in reaction to all the discussion of TCP flavours " John W. Linville
2011-03-16 20:07                   ` Jim Gettys
2011-03-17  2:26                     ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-17 18:22                       ` Rick Jones
2011-03-17 21:50                         ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-17 22:20                           ` Rick Jones
2011-03-17 22:56                             ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-18  1:36                               ` Justin McCann
2011-03-18  5:51                             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-15 16:34 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-15 18:13   ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-03-16  5:41 ` Fred Baker
2011-03-16  6:26   ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-16  8:55 ` [Bloat] Random idea in reaction to all the discussion of TCPflavours " Richard Scheffenegger
2011-03-16  9:04 ` [Bloat] Random idea in reaction to all the discussion of TCP flavours " BeckW
2011-03-16 22:48   ` Fred Baker
2011-03-16 23:23     ` Jonathan Morton
2011-03-17  8:34     ` BeckW

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