From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lf1-x12c.google.com (mail-lf1-x12c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::12c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE2783CB35; Fri, 8 Jan 2021 11:13:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-lf1-x12c.google.com with SMTP id s26so24112794lfc.8; Fri, 08 Jan 2021 08:13:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=Aih5bQt0fV/tWGUE+42nlS6p87zLnGVTc+qZj+ay0O4=; b=f/msX5D7Actaec+SPdOvtnondfVP/FrWSraHq4ZLU3n7fhtblQeOAM6jtoPtpR/aln wcADiKbpOtgSYGgJy1khJvYfvl2Zlh255VcFhacDc0naTLDPOJHFGNuwRK99Odesy1TP tdba3LpGS4iM1kEaf11oru3Mz0nUu/zqYMt3xSbkuRiKgIqofhOHmJrZwKIuFL0pOZTP FHdxrd+7+ut+A9hMRNPvbbwfNd2ZKrp4jyAkeQkgJyP8uhjAmaQW053nxLE3MDe6ABHL eTwbImS8BKX2qhkZm5ispl8ZDoJjocSelP87ReQnFuWARSV5dESrb0+COezv+aIcJFXs J00g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=Aih5bQt0fV/tWGUE+42nlS6p87zLnGVTc+qZj+ay0O4=; b=G8VMN5niV8V4R4om+1xjW7QPdAcjz8HvRQ/iVtqrYuYEq0g0Kpni7HBsnKeFWsrmOB LBmWB0Ueq3hHc1d9v1yWp8OcHvG+hSHaeSAHtkK53VEQrBQh4lnHNv6iGICdARB9Jj11 DMXLKMtPuwVUZk13y1O7SmshxDxERyLG7dRPll6Qk820WY500Te07YMgXvjnWS2pNXE9 KOYt1xZEfQ8cYAU/esV4Dz0XzePXHD8xDKQYGPitG7lshTuswhWLB4eC3iADnElLCJ9C zhvX4MXakZ8vHaQ3j2oJF0flYA0/07mJzR7N9L336mzx9QV2VoKc5mVfU9b2JoSjl6nd ltfA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5300LMHTKfDXh/910RgpKtkyYIvzAn/hoW6EAOqgbxGII9fQFhfP /iCotsE2WINLRx8sZkWWPHo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxMin+mEMrUkk+2KcpjQvfqaoIAxbKM3OnWyM5UHaW4pUNg5Bg/YRM6RHWgFHa1zKrGItye0Q== X-Received: by 2002:a2e:9006:: with SMTP id h6mr1699431ljg.268.1610122430338; Fri, 08 Jan 2021 08:13:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from jonathartonsmbp.lan (178-55-231-236.bb.dnainternet.fi. [178.55.231.236]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p13sm2066559lft.162.2021.01.08.08.13.47 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 08 Jan 2021 08:13:49 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.7\)) From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 18:13:47 +0200 Cc: Dave Taht , ghosal@cs.ucdavis.edu, BBR Development , tflynn@ucdavis.edu, Make-Wifi-fast , ECN-Sane , bloat , codel@lists.bufferbloat.net, flent-users Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <98CABC94-0E85-4981-85D2-52C7F02F3B9E@gmail.com> References: To: Neal Cardwell X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.7) Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Make-wifi-fast] [bbr-dev] D* tcp looks pretty good, on paper X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2021 16:13:51 -0000 > On 8 Jan, 2021, at 5:38 pm, Neal Cardwell via Make-wifi-fast = wrote: >=20 > What did you have in mind by "variable links" here? (I did not see = that term in the paper.) Wifi and LTE tend to vary their link characteristics a lot over time. - Jonathan Morton=