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From: "Jesper Dangaard Brouer" <jdb@comx.dk>
To: "Steinar H. Gunderson" <sgunderson@bigfoot.com>,
	"Dave Taht" <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Bloat] Best practices for paced TCP on Linux?
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 23:13:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9B4DB5BB110D1742A9FBC310C8011FD303E58D@comxexch02.comx.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120407190134.GF21452@uio.no>

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Hi Steinar,

The stream from http://pannekake.samfundet.no:3013 is fairly stable,
compared to e.g. http://cesur.tg12.gathering.org:9094/, but is clear
that sometimes excessive buffering does occur.

Try to looking at the Recv-Q size, e.g. using the command "netstat -tan".
Some time you will see it grows, see the output below, where
it reached 400Kbytes.  This is data avail to the application (in the
kernel), but not yet processed/read by the VLC application.

[hawk@t520 norsk-streaming]$ netstat -tan
Active Internet connections (servers and established)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address          Foreign Address     State
[...cut...]
tcp   400312      0 192.168.42.180:59826   129.241.93.35:3013  ESTABLISHED

While writing this email, I saw it jump upto 949690 bytes, and the
signal quality went down.

--Jesper Brouer



-----Original Message-----
From: bloat-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net on behalf of Steinar H. Gunderson
Sent: Sat 4/7/2012 21:01
To: Dave Taht
Cc: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Bloat] Best practices for paced TCP on Linux?
 
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 08:54:56PM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
> I did these on one of the irrors (well, I did 500000 instead of 256000).
> You can try
> 
>   http://pannekake.samfundet.no:3013/ (SD)
>   http://pannekake.samfundet.no:3015/ (HD)
> 
> I didn't restart VLC; I hope I don't have to. =)

I got reports from people in Norway that this instantly stopped the problems
on the HD stream, so incredibly enough, it may have worked.

I don't understand these mechanisms. Why would a smaller send window help?
Less burstiness?

/* Steinar */
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-04-07 21:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-06 21:37 Steinar H. Gunderson
2012-04-06 21:49 ` Dave Taht
2012-04-06 22:21   ` Steinar H. Gunderson
2012-04-07 15:08     ` Eric Dumazet
2012-04-07 15:25       ` Dave Taht
2012-04-07 15:35         ` Steinar H. Gunderson
2012-04-07 15:48           ` Dave Taht
2012-04-07 15:52           ` Dave Taht
2012-04-07 17:10           ` Jonathan Morton
2012-04-07 17:18             ` Dave Taht
2012-04-07 17:44               ` Jonathan Morton
2012-04-07 18:10             ` Steinar H. Gunderson
2012-04-07 18:27               ` Jonathan Morton
2012-04-07 18:56                 ` Dave Taht
2012-04-07 18:50               ` Dave Taht
2012-04-07 18:54                 ` Steinar H. Gunderson
2012-04-07 19:01                   ` Steinar H. Gunderson
2012-04-07 19:08                     ` Jonathan Morton
2012-04-07 19:38                     ` Dave Taht
2012-04-07 20:16                       ` Steinar H. Gunderson
2012-04-14  0:37                       ` Rick Jones
2012-04-07 21:13                     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer [this message]
2012-04-07 21:31                       ` Steinar H. Gunderson
2012-04-07 19:02                   ` Dave Taht
2012-04-07 21:49                 ` Fred Baker
2012-04-07 22:36                   ` Dave Taht
2012-04-07 23:59                     ` Fred Baker
2012-04-07 20:27         ` Neil Davies
2012-04-14  0:35     ` Rick Jones
2012-04-14 21:06       ` Roger Jørgensen
2012-04-16 17:05         ` Rick Jones
2012-04-07 11:54 ` Neil Davies
2012-04-07 14:17   ` Fred Baker
2012-04-07 15:08     ` Neil Davies
2012-04-07 15:16       ` Steinar H. Gunderson
2012-04-14  0:44     ` Rick Jones
2012-04-07 14:48   ` Dave Taht
2012-05-12 20:08 ` Steinar H. Gunderson

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