Re: [Bloat] waveform bufferbloat test is GOOOD

[Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>]

@Dave,


using Chrome instead of Safari I get this with SQM:
https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat?test-id=ee977631-2f50-4105-b717-5066cbf3ddca
Unloaded: 		15 ms
Download Active:	+0 ms
Upload Active:		+0 m

this with SQM disabled:
https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat?test-id=0959dcfa-04e2-435c-9924-0d0438420597
Unloaded: 		15 ms
Download Active:	+14 ms
Upload Active:		+50 m

and this with SQM enabled again:
https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat?test-id=154ee895-108e-4bcf-8a08-536340fb5282
Unloaded: 		15 ms
Download Active:	+1 ms
Upload Active:		+0 m

all measured via an USB3 realtek gigabit-ethernet dongle on a macbook with 10.14.6.

To me this looks like cake really helps, but I wonder what TCP is in use by cloudflare's CDN nodes... I had expected somewhat larger effects.

Best Regards
	Sebastian


> On Feb 3, 2021, at 12:54, Sina Khanifar <sina@waveform.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> It's funny that this thread should pop up now … I  drafted a long
> email to send to the list two nights ago. I was planning to announce
> that we were almost ready to actually launch our updated bufferbloat
> test, but then we found some pesky bugs that we're now working to
> squash.
> 
> We should have them all sorted out this week or early next week, and
> I'll finally send my longer email to the group that covers all the
> changes we made since we shared an early beta a couple of months back.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Sina.
> 
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 1:42 AM Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Dave,
>> 
>> 
>> I wonder what is going on with the reported latencies. I see negative latency numbers indicating that the report is presenting a difference, maybe unloaded minus the direction under tests? My tests with SQM also report the unloaded latency figure ion the top right as 0ms (while my link forces A >=12ms RTT to the first IP address after my router). I would guess that there is still some development going on and hopefully that will be fixed.
>> 
>> Best Regards
>>        Sebastian
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 2, 2021, at 17:27, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Regrettably my joy only lasted a few hours, as there was confirmation
>>> bias. Try it with sqm off or on. Running a complete battery of tests
>>> now.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 5:55 AM Jonathan Foulkes <jf@jonathanfoulkes.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Excellent, nice to see another comprehensive test.
>>>> I also like that they list the IQrouter in the set of routers that mitigate bloat ;-)
>>>> 
>>>> Since I recently shared the DSLreports test from my line, here is the same line tested via this new site:
>>>> https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat?test-id=f10cfe50-6dd2-4ae3-9b40-dedd2b5087c6
>>>> 
>>>> Nice to see that A+ and zeros for bloat.
>>>> 
>>>> for reference, the dslreports test: https://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/67140120
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Jonathan
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 1, 2021, at 10:33 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat?test-id=bea9f548-086a-4a74-bbde-b05b33f689a2
>>>> 
>>>> I am very happy with this test, and I must admit, if it was discussed
>>>> here, already, I must have missed the thread. Not only is the test
>>>> well structured and fast - and some people like whisker plots more
>>>> than me, my blessed cdfs, & the FAQ is brilliant.
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat#erid5407983
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
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>>>> relations, for Mother Nature cannot be fooled" - Richard Feynman
>>>> 
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