On 11/4/20 3:30 PM, Sam Westwood wrote: > Hi everyone, > > My name is Sam and I'm the co-founder and COO of Waveform.com. At > Waveform we provide equipment to help improve cell phone service, and > being in the industry we've always been interested in all aspects of > network connectivity. Bufferbloat for us has always been interesting, > and while there are a few tests out there we never found one that was > fantastic. So we thought we'd try and build one! > > My colleague Arshan has built the test, which we based upon the > Cloudflare Speedtest template that was discussed earlier in the summer > in a previous thread. > > We measure bufferbloat under two conditions: when downlink is saturated > and when uplink is saturated. The test involves three stages: Unloaded, > Downlink Saturated, and Uplink Saturated. In the first stage we simply > measure latency to a file hosted on a CDN. This is usually around 5ms > and could vary a bit based on the user's location. We use the webTiming > API to find the time-to-first-byte, and consider that as the latency. In > the second stage we run a download, while simultaneously measuring > latency. In the third stage we do the same but for upload. Both download > and upload usually take around 5 seconds. We show the median, first > quartile and the third quartile on distribution charts corresponding to > each stage to provide a visual representation of the latency variations. > For download and upload we have used Cloudflare's speedtest backend. > > You can find the test here: https://www.waveform.com/apps/dev-arshan > > > We built testing it on Chrome, but it works on Firefox and mobile too. > On mobile results may be a little different, as the APIs aren't > available and so instead we implemented a more manual method, which can > be a little noisier. > > This is a really early alpha, and so we are keen to get any and all > feedback you have :-). Things that we would particularly like feedback on: > > * How does the bufferbloat measure compare to other tests you may have > run on the same connection (e.g. dslreports, fast.com ) > * How the throughput results (download/upload/latency) look compared > to other tools > * Any feedback on the user interface of the test itself? We know that > before releasing more widely we will put more effort into explaining > bufferbloat than we have so far. > * Anything else you would like to give feedback on? > > We have added a feature to share results via a URL, so please feel free > to share these if you have specific feedback. > > Thanks! > Sam and Arshan > > ************************* > Sam Westwood > Co-Founder & COO | RSRF & Waveform > E sam@waveform.com > D   (949) 207-3175 > T   1-800-761-3041 Ext. 100 > W www.rsrf.com & www.waveform.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > Looks pretty identical to what fast.com gave me. I'm on 50/50 fiber and firefox 82. https://www.waveform.com/apps/dev-arshan?test-id=58dfa326-23d4-44a3-9059-b6011b104ccb --Sam