From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from geheimer.internetendpunkt.de (alternativer.internetendpunkt.de [88.198.24.89]) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F30D201296; Wed, 7 Dec 2011 02:15:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by geheimer.internetendpunkt.de (Postfix, from userid 33) id D15D7F44130; Wed, 7 Dec 2011 11:15:38 +0100 (CET) To: Eric Dumazet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 11:15:38 +0100 From: Hagen Paul Pfeifer In-Reply-To: <1323082774.2670.40.camel@edumazet-HP-Compaq-6005-Pro-SFF-PC> References: <1323082774.2670.40.camel@edumazet-HP-Compaq-6005-Pro-SFF-PC> Message-ID: <9dfc3c5eb811f2774b378fce0158b3e7@localhost> X-Sender: hagen@jauu.net User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.1-rc1 Cc: bloat-devel , netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-wireless , bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] Time in Queue, bufferbloat, and... our accidentally interplanetary network X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 10:15:40 -0000 On Mon, 05 Dec 2011 11:59:34 +0100, Eric Dumazet wrote: > Adding a time limit is possible, all we need is a proper design and > implementation :) > > Here is my suggestion : > > Design a new tfifo/tred qdisc, with following properties : > > Adaptative RED, (ECN enabled + head drop), but instead of using > bytes/packet qlen average, use time_in_queue average. Question one: is anything wrong with sfb or choke as the basis, instead of RED? Question two: I submitted pfast_head_drop to drop more outdated data instead of new data. Back in time I thought TCP _may_ experience benefits because more up-to-date SACK data packets are saved. Are there any other TCP advantages with head drop policy? Hagen