From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wm1-x32a.google.com (mail-wm1-x32a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::32a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0FEAE3B29E for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2018 07:52:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-wm1-x32a.google.com with SMTP id 79so16511698wmo.0 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2018 04:52:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heistp.net; s=google; h=from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:in-reply-to:cc:to :references; bh=EtD1l/IoPaL8FjrSj6iUsJ4H/IqYIog+c+b8TNoRA08=; b=BsL67MzGA65EQGTaLg4Uwwp0F36jxEyN1Anqb7HUVS83Mo/I0CzeKE4ybqCYUUEo/W vcU+idzKVeHjRX3msrMBwBJPkjSAAu06BIpo0eX8/KLQdcSXKaM7UJLNj6euF7LsZ+vZ w0yjBrdwCmzYsxyCPl3clXXpGefujtsq2EsuRO79Cmz5tOrjkS9lCfst3vfXbdfA+aBn ba1LtOB5RTL48wIgW/RK2WIirqc20/yRnHVg8KuU3U/1QFJIy4uEmDH8ORjVz6aHyR5R dYz+5gPkVeLVffdZgHuBH+hC+2yN4nVBfZmi7J+l1bkIHyez3mma0FllOojAr+ok7N1f S4uw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date :in-reply-to:cc:to:references; bh=EtD1l/IoPaL8FjrSj6iUsJ4H/IqYIog+c+b8TNoRA08=; b=ql+NtIJWrHvyhnp+Ow1NAiJqkzBvJ/oPBjtJILtG8r+vZ85oHLf4UstSZkrcGTvxQC QQ1kx3UjA1l2qeYwBeuUtgRHvOZz9wbORt8bOQjJAjt9MS/bZs5CFq8AP5ZvJ/Si9n9c YlhbXmZHHprvkXIQ8+Q41VMb8nkd+9nVB2KqCZuLPR1KDdf1mLD4B/RjLEowI2N6faCI nV9axF8pbGINz+10ce+sbZOzr1/7a0g3ub9mNZTqwiIgr6pAYHxlx+XtAo1+FA8gWMhP ogRK9/AsGrSYuneXFI5FNnqFLneLQ1pgUQ8UycB8Qyy37WBOF1Rx/s68xmQ4Yy8JG6gI 9YGg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gJ7GAG9kkLB5eOSQXfaWPq5scuatAaLPqabwnZy8K06rvgFoJlF GIh+jtrDaPvuARwFbdfelCSKQRx6pW8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/XXZsRAY9/ymFUX/EshefQW7zm203gsYo2RFMdJY3tNvplUF5G8GmNiiAacm6KP5wy4ZCOD8Q== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:6e09:: with SMTP id j9mr24667290wmc.105.1543236762148; Mon, 26 Nov 2018 04:52:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from tron.luk.heistp.net (h-1169.lbcfree.net. [185.193.85.130]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t131sm15785137wmt.1.2018.11.26.04.52.40 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 26 Nov 2018 04:52:41 -0800 (PST) From: Pete Heist Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_783FED1D-D9B1-41A4-9879-CCA1DDC90353" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 13:52:39 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87lg5gzwpi.fsf@toke.dk> Cc: bloat To: =?utf-8?Q?Toke_H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= References: <6C1479A8-43E8-4F89-BCEA-1D28CA3E8589@heistp.net> <87r2fbzrng.fsf@taht.net> <8F4997E9-B7A3-4095-8183-89CCC53E11AB@gmail.com> <87lg5gzwpi.fsf@toke.dk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Subject: Re: [Bloat] one benefit of turning off shaping + fq_codel X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 12:52:43 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_783FED1D-D9B1-41A4-9879-CCA1DDC90353 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Nov 25, 2018, at 10:14 PM, Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen = wrote: >=20 > Luca Muscariello > writes: >=20 >> On Fri 23 Nov 2018 at 18:27, Dave Taht wrote: >>=20 >>> On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 9:17 AM Luca Muscariello >>> wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> BTW Toke is Doctor Toke now :-) >>>=20 >>> I hope you made him sweat, at least a little. :) >>>=20 >> Difficult to sweet here. It=E2=80=99s freezing, but I=E2=80=99m = leaving already. Toke I >> think has already started to eat and drink too much... >=20 > Haha, indeed. Only catching up to email now... :D >=20 > Thanks for a fun discussion, Luca, and to everyone who listened in. I > had a tremendously fun three hours, hope everyone else did as well! :) I did- great work Toke and congratulations on the result! Wish there = were more interesting discussions like that. :) Pete --Apple-Mail=_783FED1D-D9B1-41A4-9879-CCA1DDC90353 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
On = Nov 25, 2018, at 10:14 PM, Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen <toke@toke.dk> = wrote:

Luca Muscariello <luca.muscariello@gmail.com> writes:

On Fri 23 Nov 2018 at 18:27, Dave = Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at = 9:17 AM Luca Muscariello
<luca.muscariello@gmail.com> wrote:

BTW Toke = is Doctor Toke now :-)

I hope = you made him sweat, at least a little. :)

Difficult to sweet here. It=E2=80=99s freezing, = but I=E2=80=99m leaving already. Toke I
think has already = started to eat and drink too much...

Haha, indeed. Only catching up = to email now... :D

Thanks for a fun discussion, Luca, and to everyone who = listened in. I
had a tremendously fun three hours, hope everyone else did as = well! :)

I did- great work Toke and congratulations on the result! = Wish there were more interesting discussions like that. :)

Pete

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