From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.18]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 769DE21F147 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 04:58:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.42.51.200] ([80.187.102.95]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MdKDb-1YlcYk0Hvn-00ISQs; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 13:58:02 +0200 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <20150611132434.564c382c@redhat.com> References: <5572F7E0.3060602@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk> <20150611132434.564c382c@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Sebastian Moeller Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 13:57:47 +0200 To: Jesper Dangaard Brouer Message-ID: X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:azfPHnkc5l/FaMTa5N9gciv2f9sVHQBBn8rrlodKQUzfubfTQEA p8mfk8c0RfkS+/yAhDK4TiTiJ9W4zYd7CXipTYC2OzYx0vwxHM8awgJDe+WiQtbHFUj4lEG L4/Ziz/AaYySYTTYZgIWhKaiodL3syGrfFJxoc8WV+DSNXAhmR1AbC//VJ3B9c6H1vAM0kC lPQEXRMy01tCUe1wOSSGw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; Cc: Jonathan Morton , bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] ADSL, ATM drivers, bloat, education & confusion X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 11:58:38 -0000 Hi Jesper=2E On June 11, 2015 1:24:34 PM GMT+02:00, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote: > >On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 16:30:51 +0200 Sebastian Moeller >wrote: > >> On Jun 6, 2015, at 15:53 , Jonathan Morton >wrote: >>=20 >> > You will need to set the overhead calculation correctly, probably >> > using "pppoa-vcmux" or similar, depending on precisely what >> > encapsulation your ISP uses=2E If you're not confident about that, >> > specify "conservative" to begin with=2E >>=20 >> I can be of help to measure the overhead empirically, if you >> are willing to dedicate a few hours on an otherwise quiescent link to >> gather some ICMP data, just let me know=2E > >It would be really cool if someone developed a (simple) tool that could >probe (a quiescent) ADSL/ATM link, and report the encapsulation >overhead (AFAIKR there are 12 different encap combi-types on ADSL)=2E I sort of did, but it takes a relative long time to gather data (typically= around 3 hours) plus 15 minutes for the analysis=2E I am happy to share this with interested parties=2E=2E=2E Best Regards Sebastian --=20 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E