[Bloat] apparently this is an end goal of a lot of ipv6 work in the ietf

[Bloat] apparently this is an end goal of a lot of ipv6 work in the ietf

[Dave Taht]

who knew?

https://www.ipv6plus.net/

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Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] apparently this is an end goal of a lot of ipv6 work in the ietf

[Sebastian Moeller]

But is it Turing complete?

> On Jul 2, 2020, at 20:04, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> who knew?
> 
> https://www.ipv6plus.net/
> 
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> relations, for Mother Nature cannot be fooled" - Richard Feynman
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Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] apparently this is an end goal of a lot of ipv6 work in the ietf

[David P. Reed]

Interop 2019 gave this an award?

I have to say, it reads like a clone of the Bell System Technical Manual (or some of the LTE spec).

In the tutorial it doesn't seem to say what problem it is solving.

But hey, maybe the IAB loves it? They seem to be clueless as hell about internetworking as a concept, seeming to think thet "interoperation" is irrelevant, and that the job of the Internet is to defend a collusion of big corporations from being accused of anti-trust violation, by colluding to exclude folks who aren't insiders from connecting to the Internet without paying incumbents.


On Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:04pm, "Dave Taht" <dave.taht@gmail.com> said:

> who knew?
> 
> https://www.ipv6plus.net/
> 
> --
> "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public
> relations, for Mother Nature cannot be fooled" - Richard Feynman
> 
> dave@taht.net <Dave Täht> CTO, TekLibre, LLC Tel: 1-831-435-0729
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Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] apparently this is an end goal of a lot of ipv6 work in the ietf

[Dave Collier-Brown]

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It reads like Dilbert's marketing (three drink minimum) department fired their marcom team and then wrote the presentation (;-))

--dave

On 2020-07-02 4:01 p.m., David P. Reed wrote:

Interop 2019 gave this an award?

I have to say, it reads like a clone of the Bell System Technical Manual (or some of the LTE spec).

In the tutorial it doesn't seem to say what problem it is solving.

But hey, maybe the IAB loves it? They seem to be clueless as hell about internetworking as a concept, seeming to think thet "interoperation" is irrelevant, and that the job of the Internet is to defend a collusion of big corporations from being accused of anti-trust violation, by colluding to exclude folks who aren't insiders from connecting to the Internet without paying incumbents.


On Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:04pm, "Dave Taht" <dave.taht@gmail.com><mailto:dave.taht@gmail.com> said:



who knew?

https://www.ipv6plus.net/

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relations, for Mother Nature cannot be fooled" - Richard Feynman

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Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] apparently this is an end goal of a lot of ipv6 work in the ietf

[Valdis Klētnieks]

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On Thu, 02 Jul 2020 11:04:03 -0700, Dave Taht said:
> who knew?
>
> https://www.ipv6plus.net/

After reading a few things, y first thought was "This is what would happen
if they let Lennart Pottering re-engineer MPLS".

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Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] apparently this is an end goal of a lot of ipv6 work in the ietf

[Joel Wirāmu Pauling]

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I read this as basically Huawei and China led Consumers of Huawei kit.

I guess potentially if they can solve v6 fragmentation problems then I
would be for it, Segment routing, also should have been a thing for a long
time.

On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 at 09:31, Valdis Klētnieks <valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu>
wrote:

> On Thu, 02 Jul 2020 11:04:03 -0700, Dave Taht said:
> > who knew?
> >
> > https://www.ipv6plus.net/
>
> After reading a few things, y first thought was "This is what would happen
> if they let Lennart Pottering re-engineer MPLS".
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Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] apparently this is an end goal of a lot of ipv6 work in the ietf

[Michael Richardson]

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Joel Wirāmu Pauling <joel@aenertia.net> wrote:
    > I read this as basically Huawei and China led Consumers of Huawei kit.

Yes.
I would not say that it's "IETF".
The IETF, as a group, doesn't believe in very much, sometimes not even running code :-(

    > I guess potentially if they can solve v6 fragmentation problems then I
    > would be for it, Segment routing, also should have been a thing for a long
    > time.

I think that there are some good outcomes to simplifying all forwarding
silicon to doing IPv6, and making everything else be an overlay/adaptation.

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