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From: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: cerowrt-devel <cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] Comcast upped service levels -> WNDR3800 can't cope...
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 14:02:57 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <A68CC928-9C56-416C-937C-5F7E7D8DA3AD@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw7q6gfS78NW8NoKH5v-azXeYW2oKWp_batvE2VM9fjrYQ@mail.gmail.com>


On 29 Aug, 2014, at 9:06 pm, Dave Taht wrote:

> The cpu caches are 32k/32k, the memory interface 16 bit. The rate limiter
> (the thing eating all the cycles, not the fq_codel algorithm!) is
> single threaded and has global locks,
> and is at least partially interrupt bound at 100Mbits/sec.

Looking at the code, HTB is considerably more complex than TBF in Linux, and not all of the added complexity is due to being classful (though a lot of it is).  It seems that TBF has dire warnings all over it about having limited packet-rate capacity which depends on the value of HZ, while HTB has some sort of solution to that problem.

Meanwhile, FQ has per-flow throttling which looks like it could be torn out and used as a simple replacement for TBF.  I should take a closer look and check whether it would just suffer from the same problems, but if it won't, then that could be a potential life-extender for the 3800.

 - Jonathan Morton


  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-30 11:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-29 16:57 Aaron Wood
2014-08-29 17:03 ` Rick Jones
2014-08-29 17:11 ` Steinar H. Gunderson
2014-08-29 17:26   ` Jonathan Morton
2014-08-29 17:15 ` Jonathan Morton
2014-08-29 17:19 ` Jonathan Morton
2014-08-29 17:25 ` Sebastian Moeller
2014-08-29 18:06 ` Dave Taht
2014-08-30 11:02   ` Jonathan Morton [this message]
2014-08-30 13:03     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2014-08-30 17:33       ` Jonathan Morton
2014-08-30 20:47         ` Jonathan Morton
2014-08-30 22:30           ` Dave Taht
2014-08-31 10:18             ` Jonathan Morton
2014-08-31 10:21               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2014-09-01 17:01               ` Dave Taht
2014-09-01 18:06                 ` Jonathan Morton
2014-09-01 18:32                   ` Dave Taht
2014-09-01 20:25                     ` Aaron Wood
2014-09-01 21:43                       ` Jonathan Morton
2014-09-01 22:14                         ` Aaron Wood
2014-09-02  9:09                           ` David Lang
2014-09-02  9:27                           ` Jonathan Morton
2014-09-03  6:15                           ` Aaron Wood
2014-09-03  6:36                             ` David Lang
2014-09-03 11:08                             ` Jonathan Morton
2014-09-03 15:12                               ` Aaron Wood
2014-09-03 19:22                                 ` [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] " Sebastian Moeller
2014-09-03 19:30                                   ` Dave Taht
2014-09-03 23:17                                     ` Bill Ver Steeg (versteb)
2014-09-04  0:33                                       ` Dave Taht
2014-09-04  3:36                                         ` Jonathan Morton
2014-09-04 14:05                                         ` Bill Ver Steeg (versteb)
2014-09-04 15:10                                       ` Michael Richardson
2014-09-04  7:04                                     ` Sebastian Moeller
2014-09-04 11:15                                       ` Jonathan Morton
2014-09-04 11:23                                         ` Sebastian Moeller
2014-09-02  8:55                         ` Sebastian Moeller
2014-09-02 13:40                     ` [Bloat] " Jonathan Morton
2014-09-02 15:37                       ` Dave Taht
2014-09-02 15:47                         ` Jonathan Morton
2014-09-02 17:36                         ` Jonathan Morton
2014-09-02 17:41                           ` Dave Taht
2014-09-02 18:28                             ` Jonathan Morton
2014-09-03 11:04                         ` Jonathan Morton
2014-08-30 21:53     ` Stephen Hemminger
2014-08-30 11:14   ` Jonathan Morton
2014-08-30 17:19   ` Aaron Wood
2014-08-30 18:01     ` Jonathan Morton
2014-08-30 18:21     ` [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] " Sebastian Moeller

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