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From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: Justin McCann <jneilm@gmail.com>
Cc: bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] TCP vegas vs TCP cubic
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 10:53:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTik3xegJGDrv01tvJPFkNehLuAZp2yZzJopMwhrK@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=8pCJ6xYKT073aqB8quaZhC-nQU7y8KbAxpbhy@mail.gmail.com>

re: vegas
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Justin McCann <jneilm@gmail.com> wrote:

> There are some parameters to tune, essentially setting the number of
> packets you want queued in the network at any one time (see
> http://neal.nu/uw/linux-vegas/). I haven't messed with it much myself,
> but you might try to increase those just a bit -- if Vegas
> underestimates the queue size and the queue empties, you'll never get
> the throughput. Ideally there would always be exactly one packet in
> the bottleneck queue.
>
> But I think your results are pretty much expected with Vegas, since it
> uses the increase in queuing latency as an early congestion indicator.
> If everyone used it, we may be better off, but other congestion
> algorithms aren't fair to Vegas since they wait until there are packet
> drops to notice congestion.

After talking to the original author (who suggested that I also look
at TCP veno) ...

I suspect that Vegas is actually doing a *great* job measuring queuing
latency, which is artificially high due to the network path under test
doing 13 TX_Retries.

I did some testing on a de-bloated device and vegas actually did
slightly better than cubic (noted over on bloat-devel) but will need
to either get my radio speed ratcheted down or update more radios to a
de-bloated condition to test further.


-- 
Dave Täht

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-02-03 17:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-02 15:20 Dave Täht
2011-02-02 16:05 ` Justin McCann
2011-02-02 16:29   ` Dave Täht
2011-02-02 18:37     ` Richard Scheffenegger
2011-02-02 19:16       ` Dave Täht
2011-02-02 20:01         ` Jim Gettys
2011-02-03 18:34           ` Seth Teller
2011-02-02 21:36         ` Richard Scheffenegger
2011-02-03 17:53   ` Dave Taht [this message]
2011-02-04  9:51     ` Juliusz Chroboczek
2011-02-04 15:18       ` Dave Täht

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