From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp112.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (smtp112.iad3a.emailsrvr.com [173.203.187.112]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D76C93B29D for ; Mon, 1 Feb 2021 17:12:11 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=g001.emailsrvr.com; s=20190322-9u7zjiwi; t=1612217531; bh=Z4EdyiPzYmkynzhgQJC3I64TfpClsKa3HPeDifuc+R0=; h=Subject:From:Date:To:From; b=qV2hqxIwNYl/IOsqf5Qy6eXJxeC9zjZRHnmJRP0JxNZvXqOdNoEujMj5YvgAf8nqO id5+2x+mXQpB8IunCknCh/rwIGBp/uvwHFST6J3go+vtseqlf4d2iaO0MIa7vcZ8mh C9I5ggPBRWMdyxwAIAOX/bukiUnU/vLeM/NVW7GQ= X-Auth-ID: jf@jonathanfoulkes.com Received: by smtp23.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: jf-AT-jonathanfoulkes.com) with ESMTPSA id 455DB24EBD; Mon, 1 Feb 2021 17:12:11 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) From: Jonathan Foulkes In-Reply-To: <375893.1612106295@turing-police> Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2021 17:12:10 -0500 Cc: Dave Taht , cerowrt-devel , bloat Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <375893.1612106295@turing-police> To: =?utf-8?Q?Valdis_Kl=C4=93tnieks?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) X-Classification-ID: cba2117e-9464-4c8c-983a-b080f9a5d57c-1-1 Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] Feb 12th: FCC virtual roundtable to gather public input on how to structure the new Emergency Broadband Benefit Program X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2021 22:12:11 -0000 > OpenWRT rocks if you're technologically clued. What would really help > adoption is if it sprouted a more Joe Sixpack-friendly UI=20 Not to toot my own horn (disclosure: I=E2=80=99m the CEO of Evenroute), = but the IQrouter is exactly that and more, as it handles the crazy = dynamically varying lines of todays overburdened infrastructure with = zero end-user involvement. It has a UI designed for non-techies, even retired grandmothers deploy = this successfully. Best part is all of the goodness of the OpenWRT platform is there in the = advanced menus (and via ssh), you can even add packages through the opkg = system. We base our firmware on tagged releases, matter fact, testing an = upcoming release based on OpenWrt 19.07.6 + the latest dnsmasq update.=20= For rural customers, it is the only hope of getting some improvements in = the short-term. I have a rural ISP in North Georgia who buys them in bulk as the only = =E2=80=98fix=E2=80=99 for their DSL customers. But even my DOCSIS 3.1 gigabit line is improved with automatically tuned = CAKE on the upload (download is set to 0). Here is my home line: https://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/67140120 Without the IQrouter, it scores a C and occasional D due to bufferbloat = on the 35Mps uplink, and my download is limited to 600 or so. So it=E2=80=99s baked, just need to get them into more peoples hands. Cheers, Jonathan Foulkes > On Jan 31, 2021, at 10:18 AM, Valdis Kl=C4=93tnieks = wrote: >=20 > On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 18:14:36 -0800, Dave Taht said: >> I have already asked for a chance to question or speak, but if others >> here would like a shot at getting into the roundtable, send an email >> to the contact asking whether you can either ask a question or speak. >> That's christian.hoefly at fcc.gov >=20 >> established an Emergency Broadband Connectivity Fund of $3.2 billion >> and directed the Federal Communications Commission to use that fund = to >> establish an Emergency Broadband Benefit Program, through which >> eligible households may receive a discount off the cost of broadband >> service and certain connected devices during an emergency period >> relating to the COVID-19 pandemic, and participating providers can be >> reimbursed for such discounts. >=20 > Amen. I'm personally doing OK here, but I know there's a lot of > children in Montgomery County here in southwest Virginia who are > struggling to afford enough bandwidth for Zoom for classes. A lot of > them live outside the town limits of the two big towns, so they're out > of luck for both DSL and cable - and though there's cellphone = coverage, > if you have 2-3 kids all doing Zoom for several hour a day, you get > data-cap throttled pretty early in the month. >=20 > I suspect, but don't have hard data, that the majority of them would > be managing just fine as long as their account didn't have a monthly > data cap. >=20 >=20 >>> It might be useful for some of us to crash this. I've always kind of >>> thought that having a "router reclamation center" where users could >>> drop off old, but reflashable routers, and get theirs reflashed with >>> openwrt, might be a useful government program. >=20 > OpenWRT rocks if you're technologically clued. What would really help > adoption is if it sprouted a more Joe Sixpack-friendly UI that made it > easy to configure stuff like "Turn off Danny's access at his bedtime = at 10, > and Joanie's turns off at midnight". I'd volunteer to help, but I know = something > between diddly and squat about writing UI code - I'm basically a = kernel > hacker who did a lot of server sysadmin. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat