From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-03-iad.dyndns.com (mxout-110-iad.mailhop.org [216.146.32.110]) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C544A2E0392 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scan-02-iad.mailhop.org (scan-02-iad.local [10.150.0.207]) by mail-03-iad.dyndns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A3988332F6 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 23:33:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Mail-Handler: MailHop by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 74.125.82.47 Received: from mail-ww0-f47.google.com (mail-ww0-f47.google.com [74.125.82.47]) by mail-03-iad.dyndns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C1E833284 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 23:33:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwk4 with SMTP id 4so1194471wwk.28 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:33:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:mime-version:content-type:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to:x-mailer; bh=jJO44P8lADFlTXt+GAaidra0wYa1Y7CIcT2a9fBOtrM=; b=J7JF4kN39YNxR1ZNK40x8DTgQ+tAvlS/O4UY+DR3TBnd5DAPRfbgzMYF17WEBs7TAm seZH47LSLZSAI05VG3UqJjJcunxqZzNRSWWGM6mZ+2rwp9YUju8kM/pxMJ/7fnAVDLm+ 8iNPptGgQyCAgrjkz5kPGgn1YKr9Yn0+gxJDY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=WgU8BaDD1BEVhjff2o9BdU0sCV3yZWQpQ6xke9ve22xUI8/ISmliMTY9xiZyNTn4Pr /WhRrpG94wG2NaadliDPuVlZMBXHIwXW15GBrKXi+b8ErMPjovll1oHRDdcdi5b88St/ zj3cVpaWiSO3K7hxHpLWtKAOwqbNqdFW7J5rQ= Received: by 10.216.17.202 with SMTP id j52mr4289481wej.36.1300231997593; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:33:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.239.42] (xdsl-83-150-84-172.nebulazone.fi [83.150.84.172]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y29sm342658wbd.22.2011.03.15.16.33.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:33:17 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: <1300231537.2087.2207.camel@tardy> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 01:33:15 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4D7F4121.40307@freedesktop.org> <20110315175942.GA10064@goldfish> <1300212877.2087.2155.camel@tardy> <20110315183111.GB2542@tuxdriver.com> <29B06777-CC5F-4802-8727-B04F58CDA9E3@gmail.com> <20110315205146.GF2542@tuxdriver.com> <219C7840-ED79-49EA-929D-96C5A6200401@gmail.com> <20110315151946.31e86b46@nehalam> <1300228592.2087.2191.camel@tardy> <1300229578.2565.29.camel@edumazet-laptop> <59A2E37D-7CC7-408F-BF73-DBD4011A2066@gmail.com> <1300231537.2087.2207.camel@tardy> To: rick.jones2@hp.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Cc: Stephen Hemminger , bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: Re: [Bloat] Random idea in reaction to all the discussion of TCP flavours - timestamps? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 23:33:23 -0000 On 16 Mar, 2011, at 1:25 am, Rick Jones wrote: >>> Do the CPUs in handhelds possess that much more "oomph" >>> than "regular" systems did when 100BT or 1GbE first appeared? >>=20 >> Typical handhelds now have anything from a 600MHz ARM11 (iPhone 3G) = up >> to dual-core 1GHz+ Cortex-A9s (iPad2, Galaxy Tab). The latter are >> roughly equivalent to decent netbook/nettop hardware. There is >> typically 512MB RAM in total. >=20 > Pity that isn't enough memory to run SPECcpu2006 to take us out of the > mythical megahurts space :) But it might be enough to run > SPECcpu2000... Nevertheless, I run my Internet through a 400MHz PowerBook G3, which = can't be much faster than the iPhone 3G overall. If you can consider = running AQM on that class of hardware (which I certainly would), or on a = consumer-grade router, then there is little problem in putting it on a = handheld these days. - Jonathan