From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-34-ewr.dyndns.com (mxout-064-ewr.mailhop.org [216.146.33.64]) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82BD12E015C for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:28:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from scan-32-ewr.mailhop.org (scan-32-ewr.local [10.0.141.238]) by mail-34-ewr.dyndns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D2C7080D2 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:28:33 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Mail-Handler: MailHop by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 209.85.215.171 Received: from mail-ey0-f171.google.com (mail-ey0-f171.google.com [209.85.215.171]) by mail-34-ewr.dyndns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE7770A163 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:28:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eydd26 with SMTP id d26so1463530eyd.16 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:28:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:mime-version:content-type:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to:x-mailer; bh=agE8FkrBNnoPNyPvHDYkvwv3eKlDIGcn4ILod9T8Y20=; b=ML0KtdTvXlakXgYNSObeEj1fweVO0WxG9g41YYbGY/AgaMuYG6un4R5I43AuT5DBml MHa9ldr7hqDDix66E8anFeTD7Fxw3v5+fzJCxBcAO6RDp/1DV0Fqy8PZgFaWqSaMDHoE PNJAl6IiRt/Ez1ZHsjnBGFLuJFKvFj/G3NjlY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=M+jXfuJVfkOXxZb/FF5Kj26MmW1emidnscQ2nAhT/3HhJwdT5DXEFQZW0ipQWu6tGv P7IIK9R5yqpY9n0UntOBbEnEVlD+vH7MoLfcE8nYkzAWGZy5ZloVdHg5vLGWrZUFVgU7 IATOVf+epxe3PKUs2TUqAI9Hmie9ONrSeWmxQ= Received: by 10.213.7.83 with SMTP id c19mr528378ebc.63.1299965305790; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:28:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.239.42] (xdsl-83-150-84-172.nebulazone.fi [83.150.84.172]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t50sm4591988eeh.6.2011.03.12.13.28.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:28:25 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: <8762rol4a8.fsf_-_@cruithne.co.teklibre.org> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:28:23 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <87sjv1bj50.fsf@cruithne.co.teklibre.org> <8762rol4a8.fsf_-_@cruithne.co.teklibre.org> To: d@taht.net (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Dave_T=E4ht?=) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Cc: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: Re: [Bloat] Bufferbloat and Internet gaming X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:28:34 -0000 On 12 Mar, 2011, at 5:58 pm, Dave T=E4ht wrote: >> John Carmack I wonder if anyone here has any experience with the "KillerNIC" that I = saw being reviewed a year or two ago? Looking at the Bigfoot website, = it seems they have at least half a clue but might not understand all of = the underlying causes. http://www.bigfootnetworks.com/technology#gane It's not clear whether it does any management of TCP traffic, besides = locally prioritising it behind UDP. - Jonathan