From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qk1-x729.google.com (mail-qk1-x729.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::729]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2B0E3B29D for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 10:30:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-qk1-x729.google.com with SMTP id i7so5642826qkl.12 for ; Sun, 03 May 2020 07:30:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=content-transfer-encoding:from:mime-version:subject:date:message-id :references:cc:in-reply-to:to; bh=KWwEZCBJZKeRDKjBazFkZPjeheSJ234YD/dbzSLKnKU=; b=TeoQ4AzG+l6fQy4aYyiZRhyKdS4/bOYd61ctHeuUb7YTDUqonS1p4VWWLluiVKn2eR EBQ6tpZpIcFUSxapLXnnss6+suGJ7/nWpKKO8jwGJaDIv3QEqc/MR2C3Z4BhiRRW4IYQ D58lVWnJHV7odyHMRON2Ef3X8Cvysm5uAGzxH2T0a2xC4m8uGmQyWon/h6SZBuvev65j 4wL8E0hFtB67zGvP0kIUoRvblqtDWM4AOce4cX0BrHT5RUn8hvcb9lOv0wmHHac/YuY2 XsmGQKoaaB1lh3E+PTh9ljlRgu9kgVxlSPeQui9uxEWx/cdpbrdJdOeYQAGer2TRUcdU chtA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:content-transfer-encoding:from:mime-version :subject:date:message-id:references:cc:in-reply-to:to; bh=KWwEZCBJZKeRDKjBazFkZPjeheSJ234YD/dbzSLKnKU=; b=JVWTiG9zTIo5jI0fMT4rrq16cKQjBcpf4vLXqpq16bXX/nNbQy4Ka0rpifTl5uUoX8 T2VV+J8tUHXEx/gz6DF+zaUxx3fk53d97+ulrmtPEqno1+n2Uh+EL4z8b3PGDz4ZWzSq NKgaEOuce3SOc4ShHEJaik3tCw+PYg0Y5TVD3J4TLB9SvajWRF8rdaVUBeAiaF2n+npn UuRUKUk3DAVHjjpzBqZ/ypdxbqBtCxT5aZFqAlXbhZrqzNW0K7iN85czr6DZurXKEGQI 8P8mWoaFJofAfzv7e/vw1kYsYLzHPylfxScCQwNiDAN8Z6EyxoPeahMahguXJNA+IrPg Zu8Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0Pub72x/QJPQzA29+YL45N/XP+vUkHLzianDHwL2vopXxg6Wzjp9m ofJMHIXz/gIwnIiD6ImctBoIA234 X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypJBkw/DLiMSY9M3qmi6FKWziekYVkel4h16jG40la1M0SD/moDQyq1JNj5AujYC6QWK58yvsg== X-Received: by 2002:a37:8306:: with SMTP id f6mr11971244qkd.402.1588516241873; Sun, 03 May 2020 07:30:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2600:1700:b01:9570:a4e1:5a43:633d:b3bf? ([2600:1700:b01:9570:a4e1:5a43:633d:b3bf]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 67sm7648011qkm.68.2020.05.03.07.30.41 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 03 May 2020 07:30:41 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-200F36BC-5794-4A2E-BCD2-36EC96CCE07A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Daniel Sterling Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Sun, 3 May 2020 10:30:40 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3764C024-5F18-41C8-98F0-9FA423ED5860@gmail.com> Cc: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net In-Reply-To: <3764C024-5F18-41C8-98F0-9FA423ED5860@gmail.com> To: Rich Brown X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (17F5054h) Subject: Re: [Bloat] Multiple WAN ports & SQM? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2020 14:30:42 -0000 --Apple-Mail-200F36BC-5794-4A2E-BCD2-36EC96CCE07A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When I had both DSL and cable modem, I compiled Linux with this patch set to= make multi gateway NAT work and it worked great http://ja.ssi.bg/#routes Should be able to use that plus ifb+cake on each NIC to do the right thing, a= ye? As an aside, I'm kind of furious that NAT fix never got merged upstream :( i= t's so useful for multiple uplinks -- Dan > On May 3, 2020, at 10:23 AM, Rich Brown wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFGiven the crummy internet service in my area (DSL, max of 15mbps/= 1mbps), I wonder if we could improve things by getting a second connection f= rom our ISP and "bonding" the two links together in my OpenWrt router. >=20 > I see both Multiwan (which is self-described as old) and mwan3.=20 >=20 > But neither would seem to offer the kinds of latency control (SQM/fq_codel= /cake) that the cool kids in networking have come to expect.=20 >=20 > Any recommendations from this group for such an effort? Thanks. >=20 > Rich > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat --Apple-Mail-200F36BC-5794-4A2E-BCD2-36EC96CCE07A Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
When I had both DSL and ca= ble modem, I compiled Linux with this patch set to make multi gateway NAT wo= rk and it worked great


Should be able to use that plus ifb+cake on= each NIC to do the right thing, aye?

As an aside, I'm kind of furious that NAT fix never got merged up= stream :( it's so useful for multiple uplinks

-- Dan

On May 3, 2020, at 10:23 AM, Rich Brown <richb.hanover@gmail.com> wr= ote:

=EF= =BB=BFGiven the crummy internet service in my area (DSL, max of 15mbps= /1mbps), I wonder if we could improve things by getting a second connection f= rom our ISP and "bonding" the two links together in my OpenWrt router.

I see both Multiwan (which is self-described as o= ld) and mwan3.

But neither would seem to o= ffer the kinds of latency control (SQM/fq_codel/cake) that the cool kids in n= etworking have come to expect.

Any recomme= ndations from this group for such an effort? Thanks.
=
Rich
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