From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.18]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 24B5B21F617 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 2015 07:30:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hms-beagle-6.home.lan ([217.237.71.188]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MH0eg-1YnY0l0gMs-00Drn1; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 16:30:53 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) From: Sebastian Moeller In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 16:30:51 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <5572F7E0.3060602@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk> To: Jonathan Morton X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:rHLs4SGxJX5ZD6JTQnS77idsds2EZbOsC+VkBWcZB7qBhADi1eo DijLS6P03v01SM+FAi9P2lg9fi//Kwz16oCBj1+f52XAMiA2Efu+/YWgtyxCTNjV+wZQ5Yo HcI/rItzOoh6BAmiUw6fK5WfLGW8t87zYFLfOsO2+PZ2cUnDDqwGQyBZQMry6QtnGnmZKPy QuCoXjo/2mYbuWOVzAn7w== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; Cc: bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] ADSL, ATM drivers, bloat, education & confusion X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 14:31:24 -0000 Hi JOnathan, hi Kevin, On Jun 6, 2015, at 15:53 , Jonathan Morton = wrote: > Ideally, one would read the raw sync rate out of the modem (there has = to be a way to do that, since it is able to report it in the web = interface), and use that to set cake's bandwidth parameter. You could = update it periodically using "tc qdisc change ...". >=20 > You will need to set the overhead calculation correctly, probably = using "pppoa-vcmux" or similar, depending on precisely what = encapsulation your ISP uses. If you're not confident about that, specify = "conservative" to begin with. I can be of help to measure the overhead empirically, if you are = willing to dedicate a few hours on an otherwise quiescent link to gather = some ICMP data, just let me know. Best Regards Sebastian > Once you have that, you can experiment to see how much you need to = reduce the raw sync rate to achieve full bottleneck control - hopefully = not much, at most 1%. >=20 > The same approach would also work for inbound if necessary, except = that you would need to reduce the raw sync rate rather more. >=20 > - Jonathan Morton > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat