From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-iy0-f171.google.com (mail-iy0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C5B8520131C for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 20:11:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iyi12 with SMTP id 12so531371iyi.16 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 20:38:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wVq5PZh4BNDAC7HUSCzPdnWm7BtOSY3n5EkrTazsH04=; b=HAGilkoII2I3t8fjzt1IyhItmu1TlnhKUsMRFcwAWh+rr8nbynuCQ8Nxt1Xs/PCKgF JveZlJs1/OEzvDBXEqRSi9oF3PWPLIlc2cJSjnmo/YrT7GVJQ5Ur9M7k0R/22gMSqn2P eWUdjpHzZ2TrnWtsV1fXAN/Z6tGcjQ9xt20Y4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=TFh70qvE80sNU3GzMwuQpGGD6LzenSU6nXVv1fIuM5jbqjVVFY9RHFpy+doWdSOQZw SSuJE9RKjAGIYFB+RqHnvqxyBrDARbW/6P1PYrCZ8Kjxe14wnhdkgSDZ+4jgOmGFIV5+ /sCkzu2O34wH4CteVbIj+duXWs60mmCuJwPSo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.74.84 with SMTP id t20mr198432ibj.38.1308713915835; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 20:38:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.13.76 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 20:38:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 21:38:35 -0600 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Bloat] the chaotic nature of tcp congestion control X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 03:11:45 -0000 While searching for a paper I remember reading back in the early 90s about self similarity in network streams I stumbled across this http://www.ceid.upatras.gr/faculty/manos/courses/highspeednets/2006/papers/= veres00chaotic.pdf I'm hoping what I was actually looking for is in the cites, but this paper was interesting in itself, if you are a network geek. Note how different levels of buffering and delay (Figure 6) generates a periodic attractor... --=20 Dave T=E4ht SKYPE: davetaht US Tel: 1-239-829-5608 http://the-edge.blogspot.com