From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: rick.jones2@hp.com
Cc: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Bloat] Burst Loss
Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 08:54:26 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=ztg9r68Efsk43--Y0Hcrny4g8EA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1305297321.8149.549.camel@tardy>
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On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 23:00 -0600, Kevin Gross wrote:
> > One of the principal reasons jumbo frames have not been standardized
> > is due to latency concerns. I assume this group can appreciate the
> > IEEE holding ground on this.
>
> Thusfar at least, bloaters are fighting to eliminate 10s of milliseconds
> of queuing delay. I don't think this list is worrying about the tens of
> microseconds difference between the transmission time of a 9000 byte
> frame at 1 GbE vs a 1500 byte frame, or the single digit microseconds
> difference at 10 GbE.
>
Heh. With the first iteration of the bismark project I'm trying to get to
where I have less than 30ms latency under load and have far larger problems
to worry about than jumbo frames. I'll be lucky to manage 1/10th that
(300ms) at this point.
Not, incidentally that I mind the idea of jumbo frames. It seems silly to be
saddled with default frame sizes that made sense in the 70s, and in an age
where we will be seeing ever more packet encapsulation, reducing the header
size as a ratio to data size strikes me as a very worthy goal.
--
Dave Täht
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Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-26 17:05 [Bloat] Network computing article on bloat Dave Taht
2011-04-26 18:13 ` Dave Hart
2011-04-26 18:17 ` Dave Taht
2011-04-26 18:28 ` dave greenfield
2011-04-26 18:32 ` Wesley Eddy
2011-04-26 19:37 ` Dave Taht
2011-04-26 20:21 ` Wesley Eddy
2011-04-26 20:30 ` Constantine Dovrolis
2011-04-26 21:16 ` Dave Taht
2011-04-27 17:10 ` Bill Sommerfeld
2011-04-27 17:40 ` Wesley Eddy
2011-04-27 7:43 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-04-30 15:56 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2011-04-30 19:18 ` [Bloat] Goodput fraction w/ AQM vs bufferbloat Richard Scheffenegger
2011-05-05 16:01 ` Jim Gettys
2011-05-05 16:10 ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-05-05 16:30 ` Jim Gettys
2011-05-05 16:49 ` [Bloat] Burst Loss Neil Davies
2011-05-05 18:34 ` Jim Gettys
2011-05-06 11:40 ` Sam Stickland
2011-05-06 11:53 ` Neil Davies
2011-05-08 12:42 ` Richard Scheffenegger
2011-05-09 18:06 ` Rick Jones
2011-05-11 8:53 ` Richard Scheffenegger
2011-05-11 9:53 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-12 14:16 ` [Bloat] Publications Richard Scheffenegger
2011-05-12 16:31 ` [Bloat] Burst Loss Fred Baker
2011-05-12 16:41 ` Rick Jones
2011-05-12 17:11 ` Fred Baker
2011-05-13 5:00 ` Kevin Gross
2011-05-13 14:35 ` Rick Jones
2011-05-13 14:54 ` Dave Taht [this message]
2011-05-13 20:03 ` [Bloat] Jumbo frames and LAN buffers (was: RE: Burst Loss) Kevin Gross
2011-05-14 20:48 ` Fred Baker
2011-05-15 18:28 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-05-15 20:49 ` Fred Baker
2011-05-16 0:31 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-05-16 7:51 ` Richard Scheffenegger
2011-05-16 9:49 ` Fred Baker
2011-05-16 11:23 ` [Bloat] Jumbo frames and LAN buffers Jim Gettys
2011-05-16 13:15 ` Kevin Gross
2011-05-16 13:22 ` Jim Gettys
2011-05-16 13:42 ` Kevin Gross
2011-05-16 15:23 ` Jim Gettys
[not found] ` <-854731558634984958@unknownmsgid>
2011-05-16 13:45 ` Dave Taht
2011-05-16 18:36 ` Richard Scheffenegger
2011-05-16 18:11 ` [Bloat] Jumbo frames and LAN buffers (was: RE: Burst Loss) Richard Scheffenegger
2011-05-17 7:49 ` BeckW
2011-05-17 14:16 ` Dave Taht
[not found] ` <-4629065256951087821@unknownmsgid>
2011-05-13 20:21 ` Dave Taht
2011-05-13 22:36 ` Kevin Gross
2011-05-13 22:08 ` [Bloat] Burst Loss david
2011-05-13 19:32 ` Denton Gentry
2011-05-13 20:47 ` Rick Jones
2011-05-06 4:18 ` [Bloat] Goodput fraction w/ AQM vs bufferbloat Fred Baker
2011-05-06 15:14 ` richard
2011-05-06 21:56 ` Fred Baker
2011-05-06 22:10 ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-05-07 16:39 ` Jonathan Morton
2011-05-08 0:15 ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-05-08 3:04 ` Constantine Dovrolis
2011-05-08 13:00 ` Richard Scheffenegger
2011-05-08 12:53 ` Richard Scheffenegger
2011-05-08 12:34 ` Richard Scheffenegger
2011-05-09 3:07 ` Fred Baker
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