From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp-out.google.com (smtp-out.google.com [74.125.121.67]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F43B201A78 for ; Tue, 31 May 2011 10:50:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hpaq6.eem.corp.google.com (hpaq6.eem.corp.google.com [172.25.149.6]) by smtp-out.google.com with ESMTP id p4VI7FgJ011935 for ; Tue, 31 May 2011 11:07:15 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=beta; t=1306865235; bh=aCaHSmzvWqX2xhPfAHm05Cm0KpA=; h=MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID:Subject:From: To:Cc:Content-Type; b=wkLVmO0T6ARi75n0RkuT6h9tA/DpB4tnb+W7LaJJCXLCCJS/vfIkJstKO4JugHuyQ A118Xurp3AoBc77I/v+pQ== Received: from qwe5 (qwe5.prod.google.com [10.241.194.5]) by hpaq6.eem.corp.google.com with ESMTP id p4VI7DMl030869 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 31 May 2011 11:07:14 -0700 Received: by qwe5 with SMTP id 5so3369152qwe.23 for ; Tue, 31 May 2011 11:07:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=LXXLSxfM2LuPdMToQsaiqE7eH9Hbet2EryNM9Vvx6Wo=; b=BWqMsZh3Nzs0hBN/Ag+ObdJ09R8JKM4/0akno55XMNxSvAXpb7gtuE9yOVy6dpNDtE wofNIPNdoVy5gcP9+/iA== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=google.com; s=beta; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=RMBdErRAqPC1ptBVFtgSD0uid8JpLtXIYghgX8B7CMxC4Wx9NS3W+BW5NZHDZegrX6 ixYOjbvExz/N4hmaIExw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.8.195 with SMTP id i3mr4656630qci.26.1306865232949; Tue, 31 May 2011 11:07:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.78.194 with HTTP; Tue, 31 May 2011 11:07:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 11:07:12 -0700 Message-ID: From: Bill Sommerfeld To: "George B." Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-System-Of-Record: true Cc: bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] philosophical question X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 17:50:29 -0000 On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 21:24, George B. wrote: > But assuming my network, as a server of content is not over > subscribed, what would you suggest as the best qdisc for such a > traffic profile? In other words, I am looking at this from the server > aspect rather than from the client aspect. Philosophical rhetorical question: If the bottlenecks are all outside your network, where do you expect a queue to build up? Where are you storing packets that can't be sent right away? I'd think the TCP congestion control algorithms would be the thing to worry about, rather than qdiscs...