From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ihemail3.lucent.com (ihemail3.lucent.com [135.245.0.37]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "ihemail3.lucent.com", Issuer "Entrust Certification Authority - L1C" (not verified)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A045621F113 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 11:51:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from us70uusmtp3.zam.alcatel-lucent.com (h135-5-2-65.lucent.com [135.5.2.65]) by ihemail3.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id r8PIpOFb000047 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:51:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from US70UWXCHHUB01.zam.alcatel-lucent.com (us70uwxchhub01.zam.alcatel-lucent.com [135.5.2.48]) by us70uusmtp3.zam.alcatel-lucent.com (GMO) with ESMTP id r8PIpKQ4017527 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Wed, 25 Sep 2013 14:51:22 -0400 Received: from US70UWXCHMBA01.zam.alcatel-lucent.com ([169.254.7.152]) by US70UWXCHHUB01.zam.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.5.2.48]) with mapi id 14.02.0247.003; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 14:51:22 -0400 From: "Akhtar, Shahid (Shahid)" To: "Steinar H. Gunderson" , "Eggert, Lars" Thread-Topic: [Bloat] [iccrg] [aqm] AQM deployment status? Thread-Index: AQHOuUp8fVEE/KsbOk6dYzy3CQ2ZRZnWfSuwgABLHICAAAERAP//8TcA Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 18:51:21 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20130925143510.GA6191@sesse.net> In-Reply-To: <20130925143510.GA6191@sesse.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.5.27.16] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.37 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 15:04:37 -0700 Cc: "iccrg@irtf.org" , "aqm@ietf.org" , bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] [iccrg] [aqm] AQM deployment status? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 18:51:38 -0000 Hi Steinar and Lars, Please see below examples of support for RED/WRED from switches (from ALU a= nd Cisco websites, search for RED or WRED in document):=20 ALU 7450: https://www.google.com/url?sa=3Dt&rct=3Dj&q=3D&esrc=3Ds&source=3Dweb&cd=3D3= &cad=3Drja&ved=3D0CDMQFjAC&url=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww3.alcatel-lucent.com%2Fwps= %2FDocumentStreamerServlet%3FLMSG_CABINET%3DDocs_and_Resource_Ctr%26LMSG_CO= NTENT_FILE%3DData_Sheets%2F7450ESS_HS_MDA_ds.pdf&ei=3DpS5DUrIZiI70BLyYgYgK&= usg=3DAFQjCNGS8uB-0Ele3TpDIRqbL4p1_kd2DQ&sig2=3Dv-AgGJMpcZjrpjP2oZIHrA&bvm= =3Dbv.53077864,d.eWU ALU Omniswitch: https://www.google.com/url?sa=3Dt&rct=3Dj&q=3D&esrc=3Ds&source=3Dweb&cd=3D3= &ved=3D0CDkQFjAC&url=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww3.alcatel-lucent.com%2Fwps%2FDocumen= tStreamerServlet%3FLMSG_CABINET%3DDocs_and_Resource_Ctr%26LMSG_CONTENT_FILE= %3DData_Sheets%2Fent_OS6855_datasheet_en.pdf&ei=3D9i1DUsXlOo788QTU94HQAQ&us= g=3DAFQjCNFSXSEpkFjSihK1a0pkSHhItU8sZQ&sig2=3D3fitEZLZZI7Dmf0H2T3QbQ&bvm=3D= bv.53077864,d.eWU Cisco Catalyst 6000/6500: =20 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/switches/ps5718/ps708/prod_white= _paper09186a0080131086.html Cisco Catalyst 4500: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/switches/ps5718/ps4324/white_pap= er_c11-539588.html Best regards, -Shahid. -----Original Message----- From: Steinar H. Gunderson [mailto:sgunderson@bigfoot.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 9:35 AM To: Eggert, Lars Cc: Akhtar, Shahid (Shahid); bloat; iccrg@irtf.org; aqm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Bloat] [iccrg] [aqm] AQM deployment status? On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 02:31:21PM +0000, Eggert, Lars wrote: >> Most routers/switches/access equipment support RFC 2309, which is a=20 >> description of RED. > I've heard that statement from many different people. I wonder if it=20 > is actually true. Is there any hard data on this? I don't have hard data, but my soft data is that generally, devices branded= as switches (including L3 switches) do not support it. Routers might. /* Steinar */ -- Homepage: http://www.sesse.net/