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From: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
To: valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>,
	cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net,
	bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] Invisibility of bufferbloat and its remedies
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 02:41:19 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <C59F7661-C0C3-4017-A582-8E804E7D044D@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <145517.1529440447@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>

> On 19 Jun, 2018, at 11:34 pm, valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> 
> Do we have a good cookbook on how to determine the set-rate?

On DSL, the sync rates in each direction should usually be readable from the modem; they are typically reported on the router's status page.  The advertised rate is less reliable, to say the least.

On wireless links, all bets are off - even with stationary endpoints, link capacity varies wildly over time.  This needs to be solved in the radio-modems.

If it's wifi, however, a link-rate-independent solution now exists for certain hardware, and there's nothing theoretically stopping something similar being put into future HardMAC implementations.  If we get the choice of hardware, naturally we choose wisely.

 - Jonathan Morton


  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-06-19 23:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-18 16:26 [Bloat] " dpreed
2018-06-18 19:07 ` Dave Taht
2018-06-18 22:43   ` dpreed
2018-06-18 23:17     ` Jonathan Morton
2018-06-19  2:21       ` dpreed
2018-06-19  1:46     ` Dave Taht
2018-06-19 19:33       ` Dave Taht
2018-06-19 19:45         ` dpreed
2018-06-19 20:34       ` [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] " valdis.kletnieks
2018-06-19 23:32         ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-06-20  6:56           ` [Bloat] (no subject) Sebastian Moeller
2018-06-20 14:03             ` Kathleen Nichols
2018-06-20 14:07             ` Kathleen Nichols
2018-06-19 23:41         ` Jonathan Morton [this message]
2018-06-19 23:47           ` [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] Invisibility of bufferbloat and its remedies Sebastian Moeller
2018-06-20  7:12           ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2018-06-20  8:07             ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-06-20  9:15               ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2018-06-20  9:34                 ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-06-20 15:57           ` Jan Ceuleers
2018-06-20 17:27             ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-06-18 20:59 ` Michael Richardson
2018-06-18 21:14   ` Dave Taht

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