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From: Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>
To: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
Cc: Erik Auerswald <auerswal@unix-ag.uni-kl.de>,
	ECN-Sane <ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] quick question
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2023 17:35:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <C69B4F41-105B-485E-9EBB-8416252D6328@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D27D02DD-A6FB-4223-B12D-66F935978846@gmail.com>

Hi Jonathan, hi Erik,

that was helpful, thanks!


I now played around with tcpdump a bit an apparently:

tcpdump -i pppoe-wan -v -n 'tcp[tcpflags] & (tcp-ece|tcp-cwr) != 0' # TCP ECN flags, ECN in action

will allow me to quickly see whether I get ECE or CWR flags in my traffic, so I will use this for the next steam download to see whether there is any ECN activity. I guess ECN echos will be apparent as these are from my host, so I might simply reduce the logging to CWR.


> On Aug 26, 2023, at 14:51, Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 26 Aug, 2023, at 3:42 pm, Erik Auerswald <auerswal@unix-ag.uni-kl.de> wrote:
>> 
>> I find the attached screenshot quite unreadable.
> 
> Yeah, I forgot to prevent Apple Mail from auto-shrinking it.  

	[SM] I run into this same issue from time to time ;), but even the reduced screen shot and the surrounding informatin was enough to find that "page" in the RFC.

Regards
	Sebastian



> Here's the original:
> 
> <Screenshot 2023-08-26 at 3.03.03 pm.png>
> 
> I also rearranged the formula and made log-log plots over the range of likely RTTs and bandwidths:
> <Screenshot 2023-08-26 at 3.49.14 pm.png>
> 
>  - Jonathan Morton


      reply	other threads:[~2023-08-26 15:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-26 11:48 [Bloat] " Sebastian Moeller
2023-08-26 12:06 ` [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] " Jonathan Morton
2023-08-26 12:34   ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-08-26 12:42   ` Erik Auerswald
2023-08-26 12:51     ` Jonathan Morton
2023-08-26 15:35       ` Sebastian Moeller [this message]

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