From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lf0-x233.google.com (mail-lf0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C4243B2A3 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2017 15:22:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-lf0-x233.google.com with SMTP id j90so37061118lfk.2 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2017 12:22:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=9Sc+zp77kdszEtd8WA5W2aGa65aaX9J/+Isg+g1jL2k=; b=f0Csbn05cNQ2e9HDhbHN2smGRove2Iv+E078wXYamWBATIXY4n79qV6/m5MdHLblm9 ojDnYcKYVSVZ51fX2+EvYTP8CyQY9GizlpakgIp5uZCMXriRVGIMiPh4aWIvTHT1nOpM mPLqXfpaEdUanswxghfBsPQz+HLpeanFjENMsbKDI9c2b6VPZ7ZHO2yUYQxUV2weCQNE yd/LJQ7bbKQeGW9jRV3NuGZFJDzgSKBbWv4hB5EdfDUHh3qtLnXEV65rtWbH11AYQ6fr 6vacTYRORVFEw3vf1ywkjTGuxpgUerMSYT5Ii/SLPVZ07HwtgszaZ6ADidSLjH+f7tHC F+gw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=9Sc+zp77kdszEtd8WA5W2aGa65aaX9J/+Isg+g1jL2k=; b=dGIHWeT98lGqNS8zSJkDq5rzEkfB6aVNytJcoXLmdW+NRUuyvswlkU2wb3q3BVCeDW f2xUDAVHP3/g35adt2QmqmeNDbUM6GcuWWg6d0tg/4rgNXAjhxItT9HHgXIHkIi/osf+ VAuzfqYDQ3AD0qXM3ratXnFqOB3wdfIccCTy2C6RdPnIhcYqLVRrXTepNjEOXrekn5Do 96wpSwyMutARKzy3uYvi6uuq0lV5UMaDJ2qhp6ynsGYo9vaY/oz614CUcFYtSkuPQ1hN ZPVGL73Wy69mGNzwuw+A5Xsk03jceF0AdwZYpOap/gwFaM9LSBcZbxqtOqlre+tB+oW9 HYSg== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H1EwcGuPTKWnjA4D92+YYi1Fw37Mek4KYF3K8wrqQ9P0FMFMloCtqT7ZEg9+og/5w== X-Received: by 10.25.89.135 with SMTP id n129mr4288342lfb.180.1489778546897; Fri, 17 Mar 2017 12:22:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.100.16] (37-219-206-78.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi. [37.219.206.78]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u15sm1613927lja.55.2017.03.17.12.22.25 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 17 Mar 2017 12:22:26 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 21:22:23 +0200 Cc: "bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <57A046A6-C0F2-4209-93E5-CA728F4C64EE@gmx.de> To: xnor X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Subject: Re: [Bloat] Inaccurate rates with HTB/HFSC+fq_codel on router due to VLAN? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 19:22:28 -0000 > On 17 Mar, 2017, at 21:15, xnor wrote: >=20 >> This seems old, if your router is supported you might want to try = lede (https://lede-project.org/releases/17.01/start#), then you could = also use the cake qdisc which has a few new tricks up its sleeve, nicer = than HTB and HFSC=E2=80=A6 > I am planning to upgrade, but I highly doubt it'll help and it also = doesn't help me clear up the confusion with what is going on here. >=20 > It's definitely shaping something. The question is: what? If nothing else, it=E2=80=99ll be much easier to diagnose the problem = using Cake because it provides lots of data. The built-in shaper really = is much better than either HTB or HFSC, and there=E2=80=99s much less to = potentially go wrong in configuring it. (Disclaimer: I wrote it!) - Jonathan Morton