From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-vs1-xe2c.google.com (mail-vs1-xe2c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e2c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A92273B29E; Wed, 2 Mar 2022 08:31:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-vs1-xe2c.google.com with SMTP id w4so1865062vsq.1; Wed, 02 Mar 2022 05:31:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=hvADq/JIC2J03oCH1JUz0M0ZYb7TpPYxE84AVfnj3VY=; b=L92uZgf+3kKZzEPEKw7LCJSmcL2TaVn3YR1/9UDX70RRHYgfzFeTfoC3q1ryTsIyyR zeX30v/6CAJJW5t81EYR4vp4q0/jDFJRqq+6TFr0R63jRWVPr6X+N6k+R1zqBee16klk NxAdwAFA6PGJ6kcfNTqYw9hu0JZaFDOkekHrXOfDxrIa1HwUKdSGIvbp8u7Jdp2/7wNM LRqW7g+ne8b5H6IQgRdbf5mGtArmc2of58vW5YL/FgGQ8estiG0MJVbetlgwXOiQW1nL mMEBQAsxuzUgl/1rQ8mhqmZZvQ7qQk7YJ6erhUZL2ncrVhhSZjOH4/giCNqIAyQ4d5Jx b+Cw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=hvADq/JIC2J03oCH1JUz0M0ZYb7TpPYxE84AVfnj3VY=; b=o1P/UkERn9DCW6+fTt15bPjxyTt7IhKawiuZLBJPix8/d2mvc8TFMDFsSPtF87cw0z FNyp5JnK8byf/q63FOLWrdne2i7DQu2afv8OgQoIhvKOSi98qkf1686kxM72sh3OtJ5c NfB1xWGZGIn4hl2KnTpE/BmUFboJ7MJzk2LKEg0Bn7ZvPObXY6SIoJSHKNMs/8NRrtt3 +MPqvNX7KCdhPypTbzSkFWRYBLl+tnDcZ5ONYZzdNkjSJA6bo9j7gqE309AD8/ULLmWW fEMj4pCfW9CsgHiVWLVicxjNggjpX1afz2+mBwZQI/iNLM+nSLBRmHGUUEJDBFWJ0Rsz 1C+w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5324FkOZlVddJtTzZNu0xbgGXikzqfi7KjhFHFfLebDObLykM8c6 DLaKkPCBHkukbaYnq0TzXQkMRTq73UXlqhYAa+Ltu73m X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz4zLuoWlgfswYcszwmJS8JpHMDjbcTP1ErX6HKYwbLMegOKsRkmUO4R0LJn+gjrKrCggxxYOu+NnusMiHin58= X-Received: by 2002:a67:d492:0:b0:320:3048:ef4 with SMTP id g18-20020a67d492000000b0032030480ef4mr556322vsj.60.1646227887935; Wed, 02 Mar 2022 05:31:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Luigi Rizzo Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2022 14:31:16 +0100 Message-ID: To: Dave Taht Cc: Make-Wifi-fast , bloat Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007ad58905d93c4c5f" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 08 Mar 2022 11:36:06 -0500 Subject: Re: [Bloat] boggs... on ethernet X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2022 13:31:28 -0000 --0000000000007ad58905d93c4c5f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you for the link, David. Cheers Luigi On Wed, Mar 2, 2022, 13:32 Dave Taht wrote: > http://ccr.sigcomm.org/archive/1995/jan95/ccr-9501-moguleth.pdf > > I especially liked where they denounced a whole string of others' > assumptions and simplified models. > > "There's a reason ethernet is why it is." > > I'd never met him. RIP. > > -- > I tried to build a better future, a few times: > https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org > > Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > --0000000000007ad58905d93c4c5f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank you for the link, David.

Cheers
Luigi

On Wed, Mar 2, = 2022, 13:32 Dave Taht <dave.taht@= gmail.com> wrote:
http://ccr.sigcomm.org/archive/19= 95/jan95/ccr-9501-moguleth.pdf

I especially liked where they denounced a whole string of others'
assumptions and simplified models.

"There's a reason ethernet is why it is."

I'd never met him. RIP.

--
I tried to build a better future, a few times:
https://wayforward.archi= ve.org/?site=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org

Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
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