From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ob0-x232.google.com (mail-ob0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AAD6021FB55 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2015 12:36:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obbda8 with SMTP id da8so46692412obb.1 for ; Thu, 08 Oct 2015 12:36:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CIDcVYIcpKlz0slrnWPU/jx9KOHG5MwbAlNiAlM4JkM=; b=eaXRvOVOgUb01N35YRiT12vLEPOuO3qmr+O0k3e2JQmR+yc3yKMGMOsL0hcSIwCeEF u+VElxrx3HfYpdlIUgPwo+KqFUjJthR9okvPv9UDEQabv8NqjX/HczHXuW0jCQk+l5j3 akZFty9mcXMsx2uoGTUjqh7FK2U0i7M55k1lSvMfvbFmzMhMcYUqQ13OvTRS89F5JaCW oKkYFFRFEOKCNIo+yoYFPIrMaKShOArxa1xD4huHWCVEFVfdaw9Fyavmin9lIq2OAAE6 QgGiRKJeuAHCJeKdr4atOUJKDCmGri+RMWXbDcLzbWwoHCcWED+yIwzYOlLD/EvOwVvO 3aQg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.176.36 with SMTP id cf4mr6183935oec.9.1444333003228; Thu, 08 Oct 2015 12:36:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.108.212 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Oct 2015 12:36:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <13196.1444332832@sandelman.ca> References: <561679A7.80400@rogers.com> <20151008144147.GB5171@thyrsus.com> <56168961.2080800@rogers.com> <13196.1444332832@sandelman.ca> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 21:36:43 +0200 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: Michael Richardson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: bloat Subject: Re: [Bloat] ESR's comment popped up on slashdot X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2015 19:37:06 -0000 The *only* report of interference with radars I have been able to find is a vaguely worded complaint in a 2011 document, where 40 reports of interference were found, 25 at one airport in Puerto Rico. The FCC has utterly failed to provide proof for it's argument, thus far. On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 9:33 PM, Michael Richardson wrote= : > > David Collier-Brown wrote: > > Based on that, it sounds like the issue is that you can buy a 5= GHz > > device off the shelf, then hack the firmware to re-enable those > > frequencies. And the FCC is proposing this action because people ha= ve > > been doing exactly that and the FCC has received reports from the > > airports of such interference on those frequencies. > > I too would like like know more about these reports. > (would be funny if in fact it was screwed up *vendor* firmware?) > > -- > ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh netwo= rks [ > ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | network archite= ct [ > ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails= [ > > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht Do you want faster, better, wifi? https://www.patreon.com/dtaht