* [Bloat] cloud gaming on a comeback?
@ 2024-01-10 16:33 Dave Taht
2024-01-10 16:45 ` Kenneth Porter
2024-01-10 18:47 ` [Bloat] [NNagain] " Dick Roy
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From: Dave Taht @ 2024-01-10 16:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical
aspects heard this time!,
bloat
This does a pretty good job of summarizing the benefits, and issues,
behind making gaming a for-pay at the isp service, among other things.
https://www.lightreading.com/cloud/telcos-should-offer-dedicated-gaming-internet-packages-ericsson
In the case of LTE/5G if they could merely deliver a solid home gaming
experience, it would be a win... and they still can´t.
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* Re: [Bloat] cloud gaming on a comeback?
2024-01-10 16:33 [Bloat] cloud gaming on a comeback? Dave Taht
@ 2024-01-10 16:45 ` Kenneth Porter
2024-01-10 16:58 ` Dave Taht
2024-01-10 18:47 ` [Bloat] [NNagain] " Dick Roy
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From: Kenneth Porter @ 2024-01-10 16:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bloat
I miss the days when teams could operate their own game servers on
colo'd equipment. I ran several Tribes 2 servers for my team 20 years
ago on a Linux server I shipped to a game hosting company in Kansas
City. We also ran some of the early Battlefield servers. There were a
lot of game servers like that. But the game publishers switched to
operating their own servers to prevent teams from running servers that
unlocked all the gated content, such as bonus weapons that a player had
to earn with months of play. That was when I stopped playing those games.
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* Re: [Bloat] cloud gaming on a comeback?
2024-01-10 16:45 ` Kenneth Porter
@ 2024-01-10 16:58 ` Dave Taht
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From: Dave Taht @ 2024-01-10 16:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kenneth Porter; +Cc: bloat
On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 11:45 AM Kenneth Porter via Bloat
<bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
> I miss the days when teams could operate their own game servers on
> colo'd equipment. I ran several Tribes 2 servers for my team 20 years
> ago on a Linux server I shipped to a game hosting company in Kansas
> City. We also ran some of the early Battlefield servers. There were a
> lot of game servers like that. But the game publishers switched to
> operating their own servers to prevent teams from running servers that
> unlocked all the gated content, such as bonus weapons that a player had
> to earn with months of play. That was when I stopped playing those games.
I tested the fq_codel for wifi code against ioquake3. It works. Using
edca also works. If the big telcos got behind twitchy games big-time,
sponsoring teams running over their technologies, perhaps progress
would be made. It could become like NASCAR....
Regrettably i find the current generation of games like CoD too
realistic. It is one thing to shoot a daemons, gleefully, another to
shoot at people.
>
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* Re: [Bloat] [NNagain] cloud gaming on a comeback?
2024-01-10 16:33 [Bloat] cloud gaming on a comeback? Dave Taht
2024-01-10 16:45 ` Kenneth Porter
@ 2024-01-10 18:47 ` Dick Roy
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From: Dick Roy @ 2024-01-10 18:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical
aspects heard this time!', 'bloat'
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To: Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects heard this
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Subject: [NNagain] cloud gaming on a comeback?
This does a pretty good job of summarizing the benefits, and issues,
behind making gaming a for-pay at the isp service, among other things.
[RR] As I recall, there has been some discussion, largely philosophical,
about gaming in this thread which is interesting to keep in mind.
https://www.lightreading.com/cloud/telcos-should-offer-dedicated-gaming-inte
rnet-packages-ericsson
In the case of LTE/5G if they could merely deliver a solid home gaming
experience, it would be a win... and they still can´t.
[RR] We can debate whether a solid gaming experience is a win (and for
whom:-)), however thats for another day. LTE/5G is nothing more than hype
as far as capacity claims are concerned. Thats precisely why carriers
give it away for free! When my connection on my phone slows to a crawl,
universally its because my phone has autonomously switched to one of the
super fantastic 5G links. Little children used to play a game called BS;
they still may. I think you know whats coming next! :-):-):-)
RR
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