From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-oo1-xc2a.google.com (mail-oo1-xc2a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::c2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51C053B29D for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2024 11:58:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-oo1-xc2a.google.com with SMTP id 006d021491bc7-59879d7a655so1020380eaf.3 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2024 08:58:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1704905930; x=1705510730; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=Xu5a99dfdkNutDLecobEaca/pIbiaktQ2PLqdlJVuPQ=; b=ZFyyjggdKP8XfwOZMMuYqdRmkSlTjVapcmF3urxw7LRaGNVb90XTkaEg2F54EBomjY NWXhaJYQZChxYNZE2Hj+LsHEWmOCGvOjH9cC1+CtX5Cf5TTRJctjWzjK0hZO17blFsnW V2kKHCaCWANvYCjQZLR9NHLhnXZoeT4Yfr/nAIs38WV8N/VmFvB1eO07hN47/E/9eRTd 82EOp9vUg2WJ1dysE27EjryYzO5675jD8JX/kCjyufw6M4xJlirQmBiMu79amFC3mwX0 skHISigMV+kD0LcVl4n8l4+zbsv61GPdxvtrPPxUQEulLXlE3CtF2l6yqwLs5QUGtSLg YGxA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1704905930; x=1705510730; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Xu5a99dfdkNutDLecobEaca/pIbiaktQ2PLqdlJVuPQ=; b=hnvkMA936ITUGeCayJlEviY4nN9uD8kfqishOVdb9o/A4XZ8B9fD34ozXhYPM+dW3q 9JKNFHJ826q4DA8M/u49JsKdEjBzijKO10y6yPcDXzYI0xR4gezTh8Bxwad7rht4zp1g LBogAqmR8GigIIjxBh/Nts/jSsDOyM5GxzJiWFxvmBFMtroqRw1e8h1NV1wtr9kuP9l5 UN7WHIEMU7GeXFRvTw1/5cdNcI2zPUFNLkQL3j0efl5EXkx+SoKUwpJki2o8gngdxOhs Q9BOxqu2HzMXEx1XmVHaJUX/4gmdEUXB2u567JmbzbPyndEb7ZVUCq5Z25vA+kph5Dx+ GPow== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzwT2OJha3pk/HtBHT2TsfCV238lEY2soDNPISTVQxQUp98qMh0 L/p+b2Dpq5kVy82g08ehPEDS5Igcdy/7emBk8uuOZTQO X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGk7i4POWecgyJuXln22YvFajoYKeOmopwJu74YdNdHnklFlpfqNkbHvRHpEbpD3i4rK2GazWzp82inW05yx9Y= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6358:3a1c:b0:175:5e38:abbe with SMTP id g28-20020a0563583a1c00b001755e38abbemr1204727rwe.22.1704905930270; Wed, 10 Jan 2024 08:58:50 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <81b5bd03-bf4f-4353-88df-0c1ffeecd304@sewingwitch.com> In-Reply-To: <81b5bd03-bf4f-4353-88df-0c1ffeecd304@sewingwitch.com> From: Dave Taht Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2024 11:58:38 -0500 Message-ID: To: Kenneth Porter Cc: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Bloat] cloud gaming on a comeback? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2024 16:58:51 -0000 On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 11:45=E2=80=AFAM Kenneth Porter via Bloat wrote: > > I miss the days when teams could operate their own game servers on > colo'd equipment. I ran several Tribes 2 servers for my team 20 years > ago on a Linux server I shipped to a game hosting company in Kansas > City. We also ran some of the early Battlefield servers. There were a > lot of game servers like that. But the game publishers switched to > operating their own servers to prevent teams from running servers that > unlocked all the gated content, such as bonus weapons that a player had > to earn with months of play. That was when I stopped playing those games. I tested the fq_codel for wifi code against ioquake3. It works. Using edca also works. If the big telcos got behind twitchy games big-time, sponsoring teams running over their technologies, perhaps progress would be made. It could become like NASCAR.... Regrettably i find the current generation of games like CoD too realistic. It is one thing to shoot a daemons, gleefully, another to shoot at people. > > > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat --=20 40 years of net history, a couple songs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DD9RGX6QFm5E Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos