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From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
Cc: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Bloat] Best practices for paced TCP on Linux?
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 11:56:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw46M79Ve0HF2Q5BrF+r0_e0RSArHBWJWsgBeu0QQ2sGFQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <25AFF8A5-B8C8-4DD3-984D-0D08326395B8@gmail.com>

On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 7 Apr, 2012, at 9:10 pm, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
>
>> Have you tried the one at cesur.tg12? It's pacing things out a bit more.
>
> After reducing my TCP *receive* window to 64KB, the 720p50 stream at the main site is playing just fine - or at least it was, until the presenters just came on for the "Grand Finale".  That was a very abrupt and well-synchronised change in performance, so there has to be something different there.

there was some great female singer/techno folk on earlier, I enjoyed
it, even if I didn't speak the language.

>
> I appreciate, however, that a 64KB window requires a maximum of 100ms round-trip latency at 5Mbps, so that's not a solution for New Zealond.

They are mostly dealing with far shorter rtts than that - a few ms in
the hall (wifi, but with bufferbloat I imagine - I'd have liked to
have got some captures ) a few dozen in the area  -new zealand isn't
their target market, playing with that and california was a way to see
where the problem might be coming from.

So it sounds like a less than 64k window is enough to cover much of
europe at these speeds.

>
>  - Jonathan



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  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-07 18:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-06 21:37 Steinar H. Gunderson
2012-04-06 21:49 ` Dave Taht
2012-04-06 22:21   ` Steinar H. Gunderson
2012-04-07 15:08     ` Eric Dumazet
2012-04-07 15:25       ` Dave Taht
2012-04-07 15:35         ` Steinar H. Gunderson
2012-04-07 15:48           ` Dave Taht
2012-04-07 15:52           ` Dave Taht
2012-04-07 17:10           ` Jonathan Morton
2012-04-07 17:18             ` Dave Taht
2012-04-07 17:44               ` Jonathan Morton
2012-04-07 18:10             ` Steinar H. Gunderson
2012-04-07 18:27               ` Jonathan Morton
2012-04-07 18:56                 ` Dave Taht [this message]
2012-04-07 18:50               ` Dave Taht
2012-04-07 18:54                 ` Steinar H. Gunderson
2012-04-07 19:01                   ` Steinar H. Gunderson
2012-04-07 19:08                     ` Jonathan Morton
2012-04-07 19:38                     ` Dave Taht
2012-04-07 20:16                       ` Steinar H. Gunderson
2012-04-14  0:37                       ` Rick Jones
2012-04-07 21:13                     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2012-04-07 21:31                       ` Steinar H. Gunderson
2012-04-07 19:02                   ` Dave Taht
2012-04-07 21:49                 ` Fred Baker
2012-04-07 22:36                   ` Dave Taht
2012-04-07 23:59                     ` Fred Baker
2012-04-07 20:27         ` Neil Davies
2012-04-14  0:35     ` Rick Jones
2012-04-14 21:06       ` Roger Jørgensen
2012-04-16 17:05         ` Rick Jones
2012-04-07 11:54 ` Neil Davies
2012-04-07 14:17   ` Fred Baker
2012-04-07 15:08     ` Neil Davies
2012-04-07 15:16       ` Steinar H. Gunderson
2012-04-14  0:44     ` Rick Jones
2012-04-07 14:48   ` Dave Taht
2012-05-12 20:08 ` Steinar H. Gunderson

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