From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt0-x22e.google.com (mail-qt0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B3E273CB3F for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 03:31:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-qt0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id w1so2769289qti.4 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 00:31:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tD8jO0ZoIDwS1N8TpoI8RIw4PIQcfvCA53gmzePWZsM=; b=b0ZE07NToEYjvU05k/jWLLySvAa/CV9FEl+iq8WEiCESwvXeWV0lw1Q1m3oURUwPNq 2V12pYixDxPzmS2i2dz1khY2zYSqRhjphz+Auxk6xi9c6b73KHwJDo9CdxofvOER6y5e YcJ4uWFZ7p0u012hu6P+j0FOkbOHkmHtKva0Q+xz8Paj3pO/7Fa+of/3xcfmWtUbEkPx 5delJm0/wl4aMuicX5zXAIpUJm+0xOToeaqJK9Yrf7pA5OoU0wI0nnvKfTBA4b6k3tj8 E7f7w680volpJMVvzMXUBGRy/D9OFPPEKkwXN2qXQDYRljmCKG/JAJmJqebQ35CukyVQ ZKUw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tD8jO0ZoIDwS1N8TpoI8RIw4PIQcfvCA53gmzePWZsM=; b=kpR1VWcPvs8YbrUD8XjJ3olCWdsIx3lUFbrubWQYNC5OR8xu1Sj3irniy8CMSHwbsg U5iMKZ/+MphNyVeZJtpMiXmfnXJvp7BHdjqXEkOXd3ujtbZEtSNwNu+kyNJL06I2yW8G R6Nl8WMWfwJGg0/BYlsb+jz1FlEyM5pdhgyM+TzEGPW1R8mLwCUu1E9Ekm9GY0vgRY7D 7YJPMF1AeYDxbw51T9OP15I5oIYTfIjht4T6GbkTUJPTeMJOsMVHjgWFVy6QjZygNDBC Uv2Bwj4JUV3T7KmKlZJ7oypiADLSzynSvSueGH0ThseXCmhYtDK/6HEt8Cl9e6/pnBSv STSw== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPBHa5GN9PQ5Mscs1ba5QGWSao1L/SGRAzaXvFhErKYPlco119sZ QEyJOlbocLiJ2CBrY/akSOW8x3x3ReP9W6btNv9+7w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x224auXPjPmIeDWzm3GHnN/btdujNBTpRO7ZVXMMqzlIf1tIMR/h5+iz5pOYmLrEHVNfFzHnjcy1n7t7PFlPM8js= X-Received: by 10.200.42.67 with SMTP id l3mr17667253qtl.164.1518424261159; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 00:31:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.12.168.213 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 00:31:00 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Taht Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 00:31:00 -0800 Message-ID: To: bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Bloat] occasionally, there's good news to be had for the Internet. X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 08:31:01 -0000 I wish that more people agreed that fair queuing and AQM were the rightest answers to the political debate, of both sides, to NetworkNeutrality. RF8290 is fair to flows, no matter whose they are. I also would like stuff like what Jim just wrote to somehow escape the filter bubble, compressed down into terms found in everyday language. Or a checkbox item on an RFP. https://gettys.wordpress.com/2018/02/11/the-blind-men-and-the-elephant/ --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-669-226-2619