From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-io1-xd36.google.com (mail-io1-xd36.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d36]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3DE593B29D for ; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 12:39:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-io1-xd36.google.com with SMTP id z2so10980893iol.11 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 09:39:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2C0KURWPAdlhpR/q9ZE8IhtZlmc0cSZdjusDs/6BHts=; b=jiJxtdwos6RyJ8fS7F8kvGLhFpsRULjMSXg9wpMWD+Ud9Hov/DyyHLi99MwgyTiXtp 1w1kQAGbTsDLScVKYx6ISEdaMJ2JL8kbDhTBZBXcnuOsWWlcqUeqqnYVAK4Xmrdq/jyQ zFw1JT94lGe2Qwo+yJb/MjtEJJb3zWjpFaIGrI+bCs0WS6Nmh5cYoADeVdjd/pqxMgAn haJuCKsmAB2WHqyMtUYENG8MadOC3TSEJ2m1a5Za8AzDX3IouzJlAsja2E9R4NOoU6IX V+u7d4fYyhQ6o+uSRWaW7098xyXPiOZSHua5DJCHi3uXjPU/tNYnYpxs076oLnA7QrrY MOEw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2C0KURWPAdlhpR/q9ZE8IhtZlmc0cSZdjusDs/6BHts=; b=dKKUIL/pJj9MNSuVbjimA9xLy7TbURkohOvG3pZn2/8IuNPp5tFTLyOw+mIKUkDLAX mpb/Uzr4gGtwfLNzp3NBMk2Kqohtk3aVSahEroMIQAzr4KUPq+6VGOpZmVhPmrHFHxRz zNYaUaf4uoFSXJLQE7vXPO+9uZW5QllR/7lheO7syZdovNsLtbSkW/dtjxrV9CUj9EPI sRAX0eA/7qg1SLmtdhrdcm7mTY+ijUQFby4ekEW0MUik1Vfi+CGoMZ7rG6/NcFt1w3Dj 9IXeIwz4rtJQID52fmah2usmh16JBqlauH4UruH0R6blTvH0t/6zSYjv9n4jvvLw+Hqw +TPA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0Pub08T1Hf4CW//ur+sRofflrDVupr+bMmuKdsISmsO/WCdiroIJt Gjc+HFnZIYWszzjVriuD9xO3C/A7oOnyLH0G+Bu4yttv X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypJXTedskeoQsgipphMAudCeTUWPLDK6KWSNMuEu2hQYDxXNtTj/7ZDhXMsdF8wwN/HFtMJsGNXTVmx2ysGAf7E= X-Received: by 2002:a02:6d44:: with SMTP id e4mr8784195jaf.82.1587746359621; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 09:39:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <431A84397F3D9C1EB097BCCE@[172.27.17.193]> <6F1F3C646A7DFD2CC8C9E79E@172.27.17.193> <42D98FE80B7B9C1102C47579@172.27.17.193> In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 09:39:08 -0700 Message-ID: To: Kenneth Porter Cc: bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Bloat] this explains speedtest stuff X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 16:39:20 -0000 On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 9:32 AM Dave Taht wrote: > > It looks to me you should reduce your download settings a bit for the > docsis service. > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 9:26 AM Kenneth Porter wr= ote: > > > > Here's what the fiber connection looks like with no SQM applied: > > > > > > That's miserable. 480ms latency on fiber?? You can do so much better. > But why centos? sure the sqm-scripts work with that but you should be > able to shape 45Mbits with even a wndr3800. openwrt works great on x86 > hw, also. :) > > do you get dedicated ipv6 with that AT&T service? > > What will be the vpn type? ipsec, terminating on the router, works > well with fq_codel because the hash is propagated to the tunnel, > wireguard and openvpn currently do not. And cake does not propagate the hash because it recalculates it. So if your use case is ipsec, terminating on the router, and it's primarily vpn traffic, I would use fq_codel, rather than cake. Any other use case, cake. :) These days I slam another cake instance in front of my wireguard tunnels, set to a slightly lower bandwidth than the next hop (20% less). I'm always willing to live with a bandwidth hit in order to generally get better latency on my vpn'd traffic. YMMV. > I have been tempted, with smb3 supporting crypto e2e, and ipv6, to > ditch the vpn entirely. But only tempted! > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bloat mailing list > > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > > > > -- > Make Music, Not War > > Dave T=C3=A4ht > CTO, TekLibre, LLC > http://www.teklibre.com > Tel: 1-831-435-0729 --=20 Make Music, Not War Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-831-435-0729